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To Mildly Go Hither And Yawn. ;)

ENT had Riker and Troi - Prime
ENT had the USS Defiant - Prime

I’m not an expert on ENT as I don’t like it but it was set over a hundred years before TOS, where as DIS is set during the original series. (After the cage, before Kirks command). Does DIS look anything like TOS. 5% similar? 10% similar?
Must all Starfleet ships look identical? Does everything on Earth look the same?

It's the same tired argument, but here I go. TMP is not in the Prime Universe. Nothing looks the same, characters are different, Kirk's a jerk, Spock's a jerk, and McCoy hates Starfleet. Alternate universe to be sure.
 
This is a matter of perception, not fact. Accusing CBS of deception means that people are gullible to believe them, since a deception implies selling a reality that is not true.

That's the implication, and the assertion that CBS is lying without proof is more concerning.

I believed CBS until I watch episode 1 of DIS and realised its not what I was lead to believe it would be. Doesn’t make me gullible. It makes me trusting that them would be making the Star Trek I was expecting.
 
I believed CBS until I watch episode 1 of DIS and realised its not what I was lead to believe it would be. Doesn’t make me gullible. It makes me trusting that them would be making the Star Trek I was expecting.
Or you could open your mind to new ideas.

And realize it's been 50 years since TOS so it wouldn't look identical.
 
I believed CBS until I watch episode 1 of DIS and realised its not what I was lead to believe it would be. Doesn’t make me gullible. It makes me trusting that them would be making the Star Trek I was expecting.
Curious as to what that means of people who think it is Prime then? Too trusting? Ignorant?
 
Must all Starfleet ships look identical? Does everything on Earth look the same?

It's the same tired argument, but here I go. TMP is not in the Prime Universe. Nothing looks the same, characters are different, Kirk's a jerk, Spock's a jerk, and McCoy hates Starfleet. Alternate universe to be sure.

Possibly, but the differences between TOS and TMP were addressed on screen. DIS hasn’t explained on screen why everything is different to TOS...
 
But Spock is very much defined by Nimoy's mannerism, even more so than by his character's "written" backstory. As such, trying to recast/recreate him, are much more futile than on any adapted character. Nobody will ever think of Alden Ehrenreich as the "true" Han Solo, no matter how many movies they will make with him. It can probably be done - but IMO it's just not worth if it if the alternative is creating an original character that fits better.

I don't really think that makes a big difference. Even with an "original" character, a new actor can make the character their own and be accepted by a new generation of viewers.

Look at Katee Sackhoff making Starbuck her own--and for several seasons longer than Dirk Benedict did. Or Andy Serkis taking over the role of Caesar in the PLANET OF THE APES movies. (A character who appears nowhere in the original Pierre Boulle novel, btw.)

Plus, let's be honest, most viewers are not all that familiar with an "adapted" character's literary roots anyway. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that Daniel Craig was accepted as James Bond in CASINO ROYALE by millions if not billions of moviegoers who have never read the original novel by Ian Fleming. And many more got their first impression of Bond from Connery, Moore, Brosnan, or whomever they imprinted on as a kid.

Times change and so do audiences. There may well be some lifelong fans who will NEVER accept anybody but Nimoy as Spock, but, again, that doesn't apply to all of us--and that reaction is likely to fade with time.

As for the new Han Solo, I suspect he's the George Lazenby of Han Solos. Turns out getting people to accept a new Han Solo was tougher than expected, just like trying to replace Connery with Lazenby was, but history suggests that it can be done, and gets easier each time you do it. Moore supplanted Lazenby and the Bond films are still going strong, despite a few bumps along the way.

No reason that can't happen with Spock or Solo . . .
 
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Look at Katee Sackhoff making Starbuck her own--and for several seasons longer than Dirk Benedict did. Or Andy Serkis taking over the role of Caesar in the PLANET OF THE APES movies. (A character who appears nowhere in the original Pierre Boulle novel, btw.)

It's not impossible. But, just going by your examples, it's mostly successfull if it's a radical, new and different approach. In other words: A reboot.
 
Possibly, but the differences between TOS and TMP were addressed on screen. DIS hasn’t explained on screen why everything is different to TOS...

Artistic license. That's all the explanation we need.

And phrases like "come clean" imply something shady or dishonest, which strikes me as a bit melodramatic. There's no matter of principle at stake here. They updated the art direction on a venerable science fiction franchise, that's all.
 
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Star Trek III had every major actor from Star Trek II appear in it which anchored it in the original/prime timeline.Having no actors from TOS or the prime timeline at all in DIS counts against it sharing the same timeline as TOS.

Are we caring about this now?
 
Are we caring about this now?

Gotta admit: not sure how having an 87-year-old Shatner playing what’s canonically ‘supposed’ to be a 20- year-old Kirk, would convince people that to let go of their ‘not the same canon’ issues. It sounds like ‘fixing’ an annoying dripping pipe, by hitting it with an axe.

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Oh lord. People want an episode where he rocks up, and spits out some gibberish about being subject to some conveniently temporary magic-aging tech. Don’t they?
 
Gotta admit: not sure how having an 87-year-old Shatner playing what’s canonically ‘supposed’ to be a 20- year-old Kirk, would convince people that to let go of their ‘not the same canon’ issues. It sounds like ‘fixing’ an annoying dripping pipe, by hitting it with an axe.

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Oh lord. People want an episode where he rocks up, and spits out some gibberish about being subject to some conveniently temporary magic-aging tech. Don’t they?
Yes. That's the only way we can prove Prime continuity.
 
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