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The setting: Why TNG and not TOS?

I think The Orville is successful and accepted as a comedy because it's a loving homage to Trek, but it's not actually a part of the franchise or canon.

If it were, I think people would feel and react very differently to it on the whole. It's a subconscious/below the surface thing...but I virtually guarantee it's true. I think of you took those exact same scripts and characters and put them in a show titled "Star Trek Orville" it would have caught more hell from fans than Star Trek: Enterprise's theme song and the fact that the JJ Enterprise was built on the ground in Iowa combined.
I think The Orville is Seth MacFarlane's Berman Trek show done in Comedy Drag. It's not really a comedy. It's Seth saying "I want to make my own version of the Star Trek I remember!" Whereas I think Lower Decks actually will be a comedy. It's even a half-hour. I think it's the show FOX wished The Orville was. A half-hour comedy. Not an off-brand Star Trek with juuuuuuuust enough Seth MacFarlane-ish humor so they could technically say it's a "comedy". I think FOX's marketing actually wanted The Orville to be a sitcom. And when it wasn't, they moved it to Hulu. But Lower Decks will actually be that. It'll actually be a situation comedy. I think CBS All Access saw an opportunity to actually do what The Orville -- at its heart -- didn't really want to. So now we're seeing reactions (not necessarily from the same people) like, "How dare Star Trek be a comedy show! Rick & Morty?! Gene must be spinning in his grave! Gene's ashes must be spinning at sea!"
 
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Why didn't they choose a TNG-esque setting instead of a TOS setting? They could have good for a TOS setting and take advantage of it's inherent cheesiness and over acting. It'd be a lot more fitting in that era instead of the TNG era.

Because it takes inspiration from TNG's "The Lower Decks" episode.

And... the head writer, Mike McMahan, wrote the book "Warped: an engaging guide to the never-aired 8th season of Star Trek: The Next Generation", based on his Twitter fiction, "@TNG_S8".


Warped
by Ian McLean, on Flickr
 
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I'm guessing the era was chosen for the possibility of Berman Trek voice cameos, and to tell "second contact" TNG sequel stories.

Plus, with 5 or 7 or however many shows they have planned, they need them spread all across the Trek saga. SNW and S31 in the 23rd, LDS and PIC in the late 24th, DSC and SFA in the 32nd
 
A mention of Orville in a a Trek thread
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Anyway, isn’t it more “Picard” era than “TNG” era?
 
Anyway, isn’t it more “Picard” era than “TNG” era?
Depends on how you define “Picard era”, I'd say. Judging by the look of it alone – with no holographic displays, a more colorful and overall brighter appearance and the setting on a Starfleet ship not totally unlike the Enterprise-D – it certainly seems to stick closer to The Next Generation.

If you're not defining the “era” by the look but by its point in the timeline, it might be closer to the events of Picard. But I doubt those events will play a big role in the show.
 
Depends on how you define “Picard era”, I'd say. Judging by the look of it alone – with no holographic displays, a more colorful and overall brighter appearance and the setting on a Starfleet ship not totally unlike the Enterprise-D – it certainly seems to stick closer to The Next Generation.

If you're not defining the “era” by the look but by its point in the timeline, it might be closer to the events of Picard. But I doubt those events will play a big role in the show.
I mean, it's just one year after Nemesis and almost twenty before Picard (although only five or so before the Picard flashbacks), so I think TNG era is pretty appropriate either way.
 
Because it takes inspiration from TNG's "The Lower Decks" episode.

Hmmm..... I don't recall the "Lower Decks" episode of TNG featuring loud, 20-something, characters that behaved and spoke like contemporary 20-somethings and whom you couldn't believe went through several years of intense training after passing several tests to make sure they had the mental capacity to do the job.
 
Hmmm..... I don't recall the "Lower Decks" episode of TNG featuring loud, 20-something, characters that behaved and spoke like contemporary 20-somethings and whom you couldn't believe went through several years of intense training after passing several tests to make sure they had the mental capacity to do the job.
Yet somehow Barclay stayed in Starfleet.
 
Because it takes inspiration from TNG's "The Lower Decks" episode.
Hmmm..... I don't recall the "Lower Decks" episode of TNG featuring loud, 20-something, characters that behaved and spoke like contemporary 20-somethings and whom you couldn't believe went through several years of intense training after passing several tests to make sure they had the mental capacity to do the job.
The key word here might be “inspiration”. As in “not exactly the same as …” ;)
 
Hmmm..... I don't recall the "Lower Decks" episode of TNG featuring loud, 20-something, characters that behaved and spoke like contemporary 20-somethings and whom you couldn't believe went through several years of intense training after passing several tests to make sure they had the mental capacity to do the job.
1. Only three of the characters are in their 20s. The Engineer, the Doctor, the CO, and the old guy who I think is Security certainly aren't in their 20s. The black guy with cybernetics on his face is probably in his 30s or 40s (if I had to guess). Only the guy with purple hair, the green girl, and the younger black woman are in their 20s. So not even half the characters are 20-somethings.

2. You're a fan of The Orville. "But The Orville is a comedy!" So is this. I can enjoy LD but also disregard it.

3. The showrunner has been said in this thread to be a huge TNG Fan. So maybe we're getting a distorted view from the trailer. Again, I point out The Orville. What the trailer focused on for The Orville and what the show actually is are two different things. It might be the same case here.

4. Not every show is Dragnet. "Just the facts, ma'am." (And I've seen a lot of Dragnet, and listened in the case of the radio version, so I'm actually familiar with the various incarnations of the show beyond the pop-culture references). Not every show is Adam-12 either.

5. To get my job at a public access station, I went through college, internships, and freelanced for several years before landing it. My co-workers also went through a lot of training. It's not Starfleet, but years of training is still years of training, and it doesn't turn everyone into a bunch of stiffs.

But, if you want to stick with the military, I know several people who are in the army or were in the army. I even know someone who was in the marines. They're not stiffs either. In fact, they're the opposite. They're some of the liveliest people I know. A few of them are actually a little bit too lively...
 
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So maybe we're getting a distorted view from the trailer. Again, I point out The Orville. What the trailer focused on for The Orville and what the show actually is are two different things. It might be the same case here
Exactly so. Was quite surprised by the change in tone.
To get my job at a public access station, I went through college, internships, and freelanced for several years before landing it. My co-workers also went through a lot of training. It's not Starfleet, but years of training is still years of training, and it doesn't turn everyone into a bunch of stiffs.
Same here. My coworkers and I are all graduate level trained workers. We pull pranks, swear and casually talk about drinking heavily after work.

Including our clinical director.
But, if you want to stick with the military, I know several people who are in the army or were in the army. I even know someone who was in the marines. They're not stiffs either. In fact, they're the opposite. They're some of the liveliest people I know. A few of them are actually a little bit too lively...
Indeed. The stories I've heard from veterans that I know (family, and associates) would apparently be considered too unprofessional by the standards being touted here.
 
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