Enterprise TV Movie

[The Academic]

I do not think we will see this idea get greenlighted.

As a matter of fact, me neither.
That's what makes this debate even more frustratingly pointless than it already is.

Seriously, Enterprise, and probably everything oldTrek (including TNG) with it, has come to its ultimate end. TATV, as unsatisfying as it was, was its final chapter. The studio called it a day, sent most people involved home and sold off the sets and the props. The future, as it seems, belongs to nuTrek, to the Abramsverse and everything evolving from it.

 

[cooleddie74]

I do not think we will see this idea get greenlighted.

As a matter of fact, me neither.
That's what makes this debate even more frustratingly pointless than it already is.

Seriously, Enterprise, and probably everything oldTrek (including TNG) with it, has come to its ultimate end. TATV, as unsatisfying as it was, was its final chapter. The studio called it a day, sent most people involved home and sold off the sets and the props. The future, as it seems, belongs to nuTrek, to the Abramsverse and everything evolving from it.

Which means J.J. and his team better make sure it's worth it. Or else there's going to be a irrepairable rift in the fan community from here on forward. If the Abramsverse might be it from 2009 on, he'd better make it memorable or else TREK might die permanently the next time around.

 

[The Academic]

Seriously, Enterprise, and probably everything oldTrek (including TNG) with it, has come to its ultimate end. TATV, as unsatisfying as it was, was its final chapter. The studio called it a day, sent most people involved home and sold off the sets and the props. The future, as it seems, belongs to nuTrek, to the Abramsverse and everything evolving from it.

Which means J.J. and his team better make sure it's worth it. Or else there's going to be a irrepairable rift in the fan community from here on forward. If the Abramsverse might be it from 2009 on, he'd better make it memorable or else TREK might die permanently the next time around.

That's why I'm a little bit tense right now*. It's nuTrek or bust.



*Don't get me wrong. All in all, I'm very confident, particularly after the second trailer.

 

[cooleddie74]

Seriously, Enterprise, and probably everything oldTrek (including TNG) with it, has come to its ultimate end. TATV, as unsatisfying as it was, was its final chapter. The studio called it a day, sent most people involved home and sold off the sets and the props. The future, as it seems, belongs to nuTrek, to the Abramsverse and everything evolving from it.

Which means J.J. and his team better make sure it's worth it. Or else there's going to be a irrepairable rift in the fan community from here on forward. If the Abramsverse might be it from 2009 on, he'd better make it memorable or else TREK might die permanently the next time around.

That's why I'm a little bit tense right now*. It's nuTrek or bust.



*Don't get me wrong. All in all, I'm very confident, particularly after the second trailer.

And I'm fairly sure the new movie will be good, too. It's what happens to the franchise after this year I fret over. A new TV series? The twelfth film? Will they be as good or better? Or will J.J. not care as much and the producers of a new series resort to just making another STARGATE or BSG ripoff that loses the feel and soul of STAR TREK for the sake of ratings?

 

[The Academic]

And I'm fairly sure the new movie will be good, too. It's what happens to the franchise after this year I fret over. A new TV series? The twelfth film? Will they be as good or better? Or will J.J. not care as much and the producers of a new series resort to just making another STARGATE or BSG ripoff that loses the feel and soul of STAR TREK for the sake of ratings?

My sentiments exactly...
Star Trek has become too much of a (popular) cultural icon - just like, let's say, Superman, Mickey Mouse or James Bond - to be handled without the respect it deserves as such. The franchise has already suffered a great deal over the past years due to the negligence of TPTB (everything that needs to be said about this topic has probably already been said before... B&B, Nemesis et al.).

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

What a lovely way to start my day here.

My "Enterprise" TV or direct-to-DVD movie would be a Trip and T'Pol feature, could care less if the others were on it... okay, maybe Phlox and Porthos could make an appearance. In my humble opinion, Connor and Jolene were Enterprise!

Complete and utter rubbish...
A Trip and T'Pol feature without the others in it? Two hours of Love Boat, set in outer space? Why in the Nine Circles of Hell would anybody want to watch pubescent tripe like THAT? If I wouldn't despise the word so much, I would have to call that idea 'highest-grade fanwank'.

Academic, someone as clearly intelligent as you could have found a way to make your point without disparaging a segment of the Trek community. Unless, of course, disparagement was your point. Shipper discussion is allowed in the ENT forum, but shipper bashing is not. The above paragraph ("pubescent tripe" is a real highlight) was enough to earn you a friendly for trolling.

But wait! There's more:

Connor and Jolene were Enterprise? You have watched ENT - or Star Trek in general - before, haven't you? Sorry, but that's not a humble opinion, that's downright delusional. Get real!

You went over the line here, Sparky. Warning for trolling. Comments to PM.

You certainly did not help matters by going after another group of ENT fans:

Fact is that this is supposed to be an Enterprise TV Movie thread. If some people have problems with 'Trip' Tucker's death, they should go looking for or open a dedicated Connor Trinneer thread, where the can whinge and whine about the injustice that happened to their darling. That way, the grown-ups can continue with their serious debate, without being constantly disrupted by immature tantrum-throwing teenies (or people whose conduct is all too similar).

Your current attitude is a concern, Academic. I would remind you that this is a community of diverse individuals with a wondrous variety of opinions. It is not a platform for anyone to denigrate others with whom they disagree.

Troll much?

Mach5, accusing someone of trolling is itself tantamount to trolling. Please resist the temptation. The NM button is there for a reason. Let the moderators do their jobs.

I'm a little bit tense right now*.

Ha! I doubt you're doing anyone else any good either.

Despite your declaration that this is supposed to be an Enterprise TV Movie thread, Academic, I see that you and cooleddie have managed to derail it into a bunch of blather about the new movie. So you both get friendlies for spamming to boot. Isn't that special!

Now let's see if there's anyone left who would like to discuss the original topic. Anyone?

 

[The Academic]

What a lovely way to start my day here. [...]

I stand corrected.

 

[cooleddie74]

Even if we never get another ENT filmed project, I hope novels get cranked out every so often just to keep this subgroup of the fanbase alive and kicking. With nothing new whatsoever in any medium to keep us stimulated this series will rapidly fade even in Trekker circles.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Even if we never get another ENT filmed project, I hope novels get cranked out every so often just to keep this subgroup of the fanbase alive and kicking. With nothing new whatsoever in any medium to keep us stimulated this series will rapidly fade even in Trekker circles.

Totally agree with you there. Trouble is the fans I speak to, don't seem to share my love for the novels. The last two in particular. Backbiting seems to go hand-in-hand with ENT. When the show was on the air (and at its best), many still weren't happy even then. Maybe this Trek, more than any other takes time to be appreciated and harsh criticism is par the course to begin with. Some people probably still wouldn't be happy, even if Rick and Brannon wrote the darn novels themselves!

Chris, putting cat among the pigeons...

 

[Count Zero]

I would love to read some good ENT novels. In fact, that was the reason I delved into Trek literature after ENT's cancellation. However, I wasn't impressed with the ENT books I read and so never even got to the "relaunch" books. It doesn't help that I'm not fond of the decision to

Spoiler: editorial decision about ENT books

reverse Trip's death.

But most of all, I wasn't impressed with the writing. I'm reading plenty of other Trek books, though.

ENT's a part of the Trek franchise, and as long as new fans will discover Trek, it won't be forgotten. Who knows? It might even be seen in much more favorable light in later years by those who come into it without the baggage of fanon preconception.

 

[cooleddie74]

ENT definitely got more contemporary hate from the fanbase while still on the air than any other series...even VOYAGER at times. It seems even after Seasons 3 and 4 got underway nobody had anything good to say. As late as 2005 there were still some bitching in here about the "Akiraprise design."

 

[Count Zero]

Yeah, I know. I was there.
But I think that our perception is distorted because for most of Voyager's run, the internet was just taking off. ENT was the first series that got the full "internet coverage". Generally, people are much more vocal on a message board and if they're angry/frustrated. Besides, the series did have some flaws. Fun to watch (at least in my opinion) for the most part, but storywise it wasn't that great, compared to other sci-fi series I've seen.

 

[cooleddie74]

Agreed to a point. Season 2 was a supreme letdown for the most part save for occasional, inspired episodes like "First Flight" and the Xindi attack at the very end of the year. It is generally regarded as the weakest and worst-written season of the series in most circles(especially on here)and after 2003 I was keeping my fingers crossed that the Xindi mission would really blow us all away and make up for all the substandard stinkers and disappointing episodes of 2002-03.

 

[ChristopherPike]

^ I don't think Season Two was necessarily the worst written year of Star Trek. Both it and the first season began and ended with a bang. The problem was keeping up the interest with little more than uninspired padding. It seemed to kick in with the latter part of S1 and then for a huge chunk of S2. Stories that had no repercussions killed Enterprise's chances. If it was all Andorian Incident, Fallen Hero, Cease Fire and First Flight, it would've been a hit because of a real prequel, early Starfleet and Federation building agenda. It seriously sagged mid-season with dull, mundane tales which TNG/VOY could sleepwalk through. The better ones bunched up together within weeks of each other. You're the viewer and tune in during one of those good shows, then it quickly goes back to a low point with little connection to what drew you in. The final two years were much improved, with even the odd stand alone episode definitely having their moments.

 

[cooleddie74]

Year 2 had its definite winners to be sure. The ones you mentioned plus a couple of others. But proportionately the sophomore season was the weakest, at least in my opinion.

 

[pookha]

the only way it would ever get made is if the movie division got the rights to it and had the freedom to market it either in syndication or as a direct to dvd.

i sorta suspect moonves dosnt care for sf especially the kind taking part in space period.

 

[cooleddie74]

My guess is fan films a'la NEW VOYAGES are our best bet. Someone puts up enough cash to hire, say, Dominic and/or Anthony and/or Linda. Maybe even Connor. And we could have a budget movie of sorts done gonzo-style. It would look radically different, but it'd be an ENTERPRISE film.

 

[caisson2delta]

I thoroughly enjoyed the show and would love to see a movie. I agree with many of the posts, that it will probably never happen. A mini series could be a good idea for enterprise. I always wanted to see something of the Romulan war and a miniseries would probably be ideal. One way of portraying it, so as to be fresh and not rely entirely on the crew from enterprise would be this. Perhaps it could be done along the lines of some of the older war epics/ movies like Midway or Tora, Tora, Tora.

The crew of Enterprise would be main features, but the entire story isn't centered on them or their ship. It could be more of telling and showing the story of the big battles, others crews (human, vulcan, andorian, etc.), and the big picture of the whole thing. The Enterprise and her crew would obviously be the lead ship in the fleet but show many other vessels, their crews, and their roles. Like I said, probably will never happen but would definitely be interesting.

 

[cooleddie74]

Maybe NEW VOYAGES can have a prequel film? And feature ENT characters and cast members? A flashback from the NV era to the 22nd century and birth of the Federation? They've done odder stories.

 

[Middleman]

I would support a TV movie of Star Trek Enterprise!!! I'm not sure if the entire cast, would be available to support the project at this time.

Huh? Like they've got anything better to do
(career-wise, they're all losers, except for maybe Bakula and Bilingsley, but they'd better make the time)

No matter what board I post to, when this topic comes up, someone always says either "the cast doesn't want any part of it" or "they have all moved on". Well, they may have all moved on, but when do you think will be the next time any of them will be in 3 million+ homes every week for four years? How many actors are enjoying a greater popularity in re-runs then they did during an original airing? This cast was blessed to be part of this franchise.

Trust me when I say this: if there ever was to be an Enterprise project, of any kind, the entire cast will be all over it "like white on rice". Also, in every interview I've ever read, when any of them are asked if they would do it again, they all said "yes". I've never read an interview where anyone of them said "no".

Mach5: I don't know if I would call them losers, but certainly they aren't popping up a lot. For the record, Trinneer has been appearing on TV often enough here in the states over the past two years. I think he's doing as well as Bakula or Bilingsley, whom I happen to see less of.