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Discovery: The End Game

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One answer could be because it creates a brand confusion and competition. A schism.

Another could be, as stated in the video (so take it for what that's worth), it reduces the merch money Paramount and Bad Robot would get.

Or both.

Many plausible reasons.
Yeah...no.
CBS controls the licensing. Their bread and butter is Prime.
 
One answer could be because it creates a brand confusion and competition. A schism.

Another could be, as stated in the video (so take it for what that's worth), it reduces the merch money Paramount and Bad Robot would get.

Or both.

Many plausible reasons.
Someone isn't going to not buy Abrams merchandise because another company is still making TOS or TNG toys. There isn't any brand confusion either. People know the show and the movies have been around for decades. Fans who are more into it know that there are different realities involved.
And no one is selling a lot of Star Trek toys to kids, so confusing them isn't a problem either (and they'd know more about it than anyone, anyway, if they were interested, they're not) . Has anyone really successfully marketed Star Trek merch to kids since MEGO?

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They just renegotiated the license for novel-publishing (which IMO qualifies for merch) and are putting out three prime timeline novels in the first four months of 2016. Prime is hardly abandoned.
 
I think people should put aside YouTube videos, I think people should put aside corporate talk from CBS for promotion. Simply, people should watch the show and decide for themselves how it all fits together.

Watching the show, I think Discovery is part of the vast Trek multiverse. Not part of the original timeline, but sharing some elements. Others think otherwise. The important part is to watch and to determine for yourself.
 
Well Paramount and Bad Robot have nothing to do with Discovery.

That, in essence, is part of the point - a franchise trying to serve two selfish masters cannot be a good thing.

Curious, those responding, did you enjoy Discovery? Could there be bias on your part? Because, even if you have trouble with the conclusions made, you seem to be dismissing actual points of fact.
 
I think people should put aside YouTube videos, I think people should put aside corporate talk from CBS for promotion. Simply, people should watch the show and decide for themselves how it all fits together.

Watching the show, I think Discovery is part of the vast Trek multiverse. Not part of the original timeline, but sharing some elements. Others think otherwise. The important part it to watch and to determine for yourself.

Excellent point and wise words.
 
Curious, those responding, did you enjoy Discovery? Could there be bias on your part? Because, even if you have trouble with the conclusions made, you seem to be dismissing actual points of fact.

I gave the first season (the twelve episodes I watched) a 4/10. I thought the writing was a mess, and the designs from uniforms to sets to ships was a mess. I did think the acting across the board was very good.
 
I rather liked it, but it was definitely not perfect. I had a particular dislike for the ending and the episode where they killed off Lorca, but highly enjoyed the Mudd episodes and "Lethe". I have a hard time rating stuff in numbers, but if I'd have to it'd we something like 6.5-7 (/10).
 
They just renegotiated the license for novel-publishing (which IMO qualifies for merch) and are putting out three prime timeline novels in the first four months of 2016. Prime is hardly abandoned.
To be accurate, the publishing is owned by CBS subsidiary Simon-Shuster, yes? Not Paramount. That is what frustrated Paramount and Bad Robot (JJ Abrams).

And from what I've heard (not just via this video) Discovery has a lot of continuity issues with the prime timeline, is that true? I have not seen Discovery past the first 2 episodes.
 
That, in essence, is part of the point - a franchise trying to serve two selfish masters cannot be a good thing.
At it's height Trek served two masters. The movies did their thing and the TV side did their's. It not really a problem except in the minds of those who want to see a problem.

Curious, those responding, did you enjoy Discovery? Could there be bias on your part? Because, even if you have trouble with the conclusions made, you seem to be dismissing actual points of fact.
Yeah, DISCO is okay.
What are these "facts"? (No I'm not gonna watch the video)
 
And from what I've heard (not just via this video) Discovery has a lot of continuity issues with the prime timeline, is that true? I have not seen Discovery past the first 2 episodes.
No more than the average Trek production.
 
To be accurate, the publishing is owned by CBS subsidiary Simon-Shuster, yes? Not Paramount. That is what frustrated Paramount and Bad Robot (JJ Abrams).
Yep, but with this new license Pocket is also allowed to reference the new movies, so I'd imagine that Paramount or Bad Robot or whoever exactly holds the rights to those was involved.

And from what I've heard (not just via this video) Discovery has a lot of continuity issues with the prime timeline, is that true? I have not seen Discovery past the first 2 episodes.
Let's not go there... There are already like fifteen threads about this... Active... At least. Long story short; yes it has continuity issues, some are easier to explain than others, some see DSC as an alternate timeline, some don't.
 
And from what I've heard (not just via this video) Discovery has a lot of continuity issues with the prime timeline, is that true? I have not seen Discovery past the first 2 episodes.

I don't think it matches up very well, but there's more to my opinion than just matching names and dates on a calendar. There is something of a feel you simply cannot replicate fifty years later. We have changed far too much.

But how it lined up with the Prime universe was the least of the issues I had with the show.
 
This is about as smart and makes as much sense as sticking your genitals into a rusty bear trap after drinking a pint of moonshine...with your loved ones all watching.

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But that's certainly none of my business.....
 
Someone isn't going to not buy Abrams merchandise because another company is still making TOS or TNG toys. There isn't any brand confusion either. People know the show and the movies have been around for decades. Fans who are more into it know that there are different realities ...

They are going for mainstream fans and, now, global box office. Domesticly (USA) you'd be surprised how little the mainstream keeps track of Star Trek. The general consumer can, and is, easily confused ... Constantly. Globally it's even worse. Again, CBS makes money off of ALL merch while Paramount does not - they only get a piece of Kelvin Timeline Star Trek. So if Paramount puts out a Star Trek movie and license merchandise and CBS license PT Star Trek merchandise that stuff gets stocked side by side. That's competition. The general public seeing all sorts of different faces and styles creates brand confusion.

Especially since the overwhelming majority don't even know the who what when where why of Star Trek Discovery.

We fans "in the know" they just take for granted.
 
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