I'm getting to the end of Season 2 in my DS9 Re-Watch. I'll reserve final judgement until I finish Season 3, but -- right now -- I'm leaning heavily towards thinking I might prefer Season 2. Hugely underrated.
When did you feel each show found its footing?
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I think a lot of the series started out with good episodes as well as really lesser episodes overall, so I do interpret the question more as when they became pretty consistent/settled rather than wildly inconsistent, although there's never complete consistency let alone consistently great. Also feels a bit weird to say Season 1 of the original when that's a whole third of the run.
Original-By production order episode 7 "Charlie X" or especially/more so 12 "The Conscience of the King" was marked improvement and start of pretty marked improvement to pretty few misses even averages being a bit fewer.
TNG-Season 1 was OK but at least a bit all over the place, I see less of a gap between Season 2 and 3, by the first half of Season 2 pretty much found its style particularly mix of complete ensemble and particular focus on Picard and Data, mix of character stories/sci fi tech issues and interstellar diplomacy.
Deep Space Nine-Kind of lost its way, going more in direction I didn't like, from early on, but particularly "The Abandoned" and then especially, really not reversed later with "The Way of the Warrior"/"Hippocratic Oath", dark contrarian violent conflict for its own sake.
Voyager-Picked and then after kept to style in Season 2, kind of throughout, overall including first half but more so, especially second half, after there were just some tweeks most of which weren't real long-lasting.
Original-By production order episode 7 "Charlie X" or especially/more so 12 "The Conscience of the King" was marked improvement and start of pretty marked improvement to pretty few misses even averages being a bit fewer.
TNG-Season 1 was OK but at least a bit all over the place, I see less of a gap between Season 2 and 3, by the first half of Season 2 pretty much found its style particularly mix of complete ensemble and particular focus on Picard and Data, mix of character stories/sci fi tech issues and interstellar diplomacy.
Deep Space Nine-Kind of lost its way, going more in direction I didn't like, from early on, but particularly "The Abandoned" and then especially, really not reversed later with "The Way of the Warrior"/"Hippocratic Oath", dark contrarian violent conflict for its own sake.
Voyager-Picked and then after kept to style in Season 2, kind of throughout, overall including first half but more so, especially second half, after there were just some tweeks most of which weren't real long-lasting.
TOS: S1 – self explanatory
TNG: S3 – It got out from being under rejected TOS scripts and broke out.
DS9: S3 – The Dominion made everything more interesting.
VOY S4 – It took the inclusion of Seven of Nine for the show to find its footing. The previous season were just uneven.
ENT: S1 – I was going to say S3, but S1 makes more sense. In the later seasons, the crew has more confidence in their steps. But the first season reflects the uncertainty of the crew, which makes sense for a crew exploring deep space for the first time.
DIS: S3 – It could have been S1 had the writing been much better. Alas, it wasn’t and they had to start over in S3.
PIC: S1 – It set the tone for what the series was going to be like.
LD: S1 – It takes the whole season to realize it’s not just a comedy show, but a show that has heart.
PRO: N/A – I still have not seen S2.
SNW N/A - the quality is consistent, but it’s unknown if it will hold, get better or get worse over the next two seasons.
TNG: S3 – It got out from being under rejected TOS scripts and broke out.
DS9: S3 – The Dominion made everything more interesting.
VOY S4 – It took the inclusion of Seven of Nine for the show to find its footing. The previous season were just uneven.
ENT: S1 – I was going to say S3, but S1 makes more sense. In the later seasons, the crew has more confidence in their steps. But the first season reflects the uncertainty of the crew, which makes sense for a crew exploring deep space for the first time.
DIS: S3 – It could have been S1 had the writing been much better. Alas, it wasn’t and they had to start over in S3.
PIC: S1 – It set the tone for what the series was going to be like.
LD: S1 – It takes the whole season to realize it’s not just a comedy show, but a show that has heart.
PRO: N/A – I still have not seen S2.
SNW N/A - the quality is consistent, but it’s unknown if it will hold, get better or get worse over the next two seasons.
Interesting that the consensus regarding Voyager seems to be that when it just gave up and committed to being TNG Lite, it was a better show.
I know Seven was a great character, but her addition was counterbalanced by making Chakotay a background character, Harry a "forever ensign" meme, and Kes just plain not there anymore.
I know Seven was a great character, but her addition was counterbalanced by making Chakotay a background character, Harry a "forever ensign" meme, and Kes just plain not there anymore.
TOS --> Season 2: Only from memory of being 5 or 6 and first seeing the one where Kirk was in a cave set with glowing red triangles and flashing balls. ("Return to Tomorrow") The show never got tiring. As I grew and aged and all that, plot points and all that did start to stand out. A good story can survive anything, and many of TOS remain as timeless tales despite the nitpicks. Watching season 1, of course, it nailed everything but descended into "the big three" as, apart from other reasons, ensembles were not as often... so first viewing is season 2, but overall as a series, season 1 nailed it.
TAS --> Season 1?: Only because I bought the DVD set in a clearance bin. Never saw it before and found it surprisingly good, if not too jarring in pace, as TOS made use of its 45-minute screen time and now they're taking TOS-worthy ideas but slinking them into a shorter runtime (obviously due to animation costs and timeslot but that's beside the point.)
TNG --> Season3 2: I was something of a fan from the start while broiling it for all the needlessly dumb things it did, but 3 nailed it. I first noticed cracks in 5, but the bringing in of Ro helped keep the show running fresh for a while longer. Honorable mention for season 2, which was a huge upgrade at the time and most of the halcyon era of TNG does start in 2. Actually, come to think of it, "Season 2" is now my official vote.
DS9 --> Season 4: Was lukewarm to the first three seasons, watching off and on, but gave the season 4 premiere a chance. The next 8 weeks were near-perfection, and looking back at older seasons made me appreciate them more. But season 4's new life and verve, confidence spoke volumes.
VOY --> Season 4: Seven of Nine's returning to humanity from being abducted and abused and having to integrate. Previous seasons were a bit meh and I missed quite a few. Finally saw the whole show and, yeah, 1-3 are still so uneven despite a great cast. 4 is definitely when the footing was found.
ENT --> N/A: A couple episodes in season 4 certainly intrigued, but... 90s Trek was completely out of steam. Prior to that I tried the season 3 premiere (stunk) and season 1 premiere (stunk), but prequels are a unique beast that rarely deliver. That said, a 5th season with Coto at the helm likely would have revived the franchise, especially if they gave this crew its own thing and not be so tethered to TOS and other tie-ins, unless they answered huge questions that TOS made (which it didn't really have and TNG, et al, shrewdly used Yesterday's Enterprise to fill in enough continuity without bathing in it.)
DSC --> N/A Tried several times, prequels are not my thing
PIC --> Season 3. Saw season 1 premiere, didn't care for it. Gave season 3 a chance due to so much fan response and was hooked. A couple episodes later on did stumble a little and I got the impression the Borg were brought back again solely to improve on the deviations previous seasons went toward, but the season is still far more than the sum of its parts and is a worthy coda for the TNG crew, unlike the 90s movies (which season 3 also retroactive gives weight and merit to, just like how TNG seasons 2 onward managed to give the embarrassing Yar/Data sex scene some retroactive dignity). The season ending leaves people begging for more and the new cast shown are genuinely compelling.
SNW --> N/A. Prequels are not my thing but at least ENT didn't rely on so many established characters from later shows as a bunch of crutches
LDS --> Season 1. Was floored by how it got everything right from the start, while doing its own thing, while balancing new ideas (second contact, done seriously, combined with bawdy parody worthy of Futurama, et al) just hit all the right notes. ♪♫ If anything, it's too reference-heavy, but usually the stories and characters elevate the show to the point that the references work in the scripts' favor, rather than simply being the show
PRD --> N/A. Saw clips, they were surprisingly good considering the target demographic (so "kids of all ages" then), but have not seen full episodes.
TAS --> Season 1?: Only because I bought the DVD set in a clearance bin. Never saw it before and found it surprisingly good, if not too jarring in pace, as TOS made use of its 45-minute screen time and now they're taking TOS-worthy ideas but slinking them into a shorter runtime (obviously due to animation costs and timeslot but that's beside the point.)
TNG --> Season
DS9 --> Season 4: Was lukewarm to the first three seasons, watching off and on, but gave the season 4 premiere a chance. The next 8 weeks were near-perfection, and looking back at older seasons made me appreciate them more. But season 4's new life and verve, confidence spoke volumes.
VOY --> Season 4: Seven of Nine's returning to humanity from being abducted and abused and having to integrate. Previous seasons were a bit meh and I missed quite a few. Finally saw the whole show and, yeah, 1-3 are still so uneven despite a great cast. 4 is definitely when the footing was found.
ENT --> N/A: A couple episodes in season 4 certainly intrigued, but... 90s Trek was completely out of steam. Prior to that I tried the season 3 premiere (stunk) and season 1 premiere (stunk), but prequels are a unique beast that rarely deliver. That said, a 5th season with Coto at the helm likely would have revived the franchise, especially if they gave this crew its own thing and not be so tethered to TOS and other tie-ins, unless they answered huge questions that TOS made (which it didn't really have and TNG, et al, shrewdly used Yesterday's Enterprise to fill in enough continuity without bathing in it.)
DSC --> N/A Tried several times, prequels are not my thing
PIC --> Season 3. Saw season 1 premiere, didn't care for it. Gave season 3 a chance due to so much fan response and was hooked. A couple episodes later on did stumble a little and I got the impression the Borg were brought back again solely to improve on the deviations previous seasons went toward, but the season is still far more than the sum of its parts and is a worthy coda for the TNG crew, unlike the 90s movies (which season 3 also retroactive gives weight and merit to, just like how TNG seasons 2 onward managed to give the embarrassing Yar/Data sex scene some retroactive dignity). The season ending leaves people begging for more and the new cast shown are genuinely compelling.
SNW --> N/A. Prequels are not my thing but at least ENT didn't rely on so many established characters from later shows as a bunch of crutches
LDS --> Season 1. Was floored by how it got everything right from the start, while doing its own thing, while balancing new ideas (second contact, done seriously, combined with bawdy parody worthy of Futurama, et al) just hit all the right notes. ♪♫ If anything, it's too reference-heavy, but usually the stories and characters elevate the show to the point that the references work in the scripts' favor, rather than simply being the show
PRD --> N/A. Saw clips, they were surprisingly good considering the target demographic (so "kids of all ages" then), but have not seen full episodes.
TOS never really had the chance to really find its footing, IMO. TNG definitely perfected Trek to an art form in seasons 3 and 4. DS9 was pretty solid throughout. I’m in the minority that actually enjoyed DS9’s first season. VOY most definitely had the best first season of all the Trek shows, and IMO, it started going downhill after “Scorpion”, though it did have a few excellent episodes here and there. IMO, “Blink of an Eye” is the finest, best, most outstanding shining example of a Trek episode, and what a Trek episode should be in spirit.
TOS: Right out of the gate
TNG: A lot of people say it was Season 3, but I think it was actually closer to Season 2’s “Measure of a Man”
DS9: Introduction of the Dominion, the Defiant, and “Way of the Warrior”
VOY: The addition of 7of9
ENT: Season 3
DSC: Never happened. They tried to significantly course correct every season and it never really found a comfortable footing.
PIC: Season 3
LD: *shrug
PRO: Right out of the gate
SNW: It’s all pretty much the same with no particular upward or downward trend.
TNG: A lot of people say it was Season 3, but I think it was actually closer to Season 2’s “Measure of a Man”
DS9: Introduction of the Dominion, the Defiant, and “Way of the Warrior”
VOY: The addition of 7of9
ENT: Season 3
DSC: Never happened. They tried to significantly course correct every season and it never really found a comfortable footing.
PIC: Season 3
LD: *shrug
PRO: Right out of the gate
SNW: It’s all pretty much the same with no particular upward or downward trend.
TOS/TAS/PIC/LD/PRO/SNW: all hit the ground running and remained pretty consistent
TNG: about halfway through Season 2 (even though I prefer Season 1 for it's greater scifi weirdness)
DS9: Season 4, found itself once fully committed to the Dominion storyline
VOY: Season 4, Seven was the spark the show needed
ENT: never really committed to any one concept, so maybe the only show that never found its footing
DIS: not helped by all of the behind the scenes drama (and the only show that really faced this issue to such an extent) similarly meandering to ENT the first three seasons, but figured itself out by Season 4
TNG: about halfway through Season 2 (even though I prefer Season 1 for it's greater scifi weirdness)
DS9: Season 4, found itself once fully committed to the Dominion storyline
VOY: Season 4, Seven was the spark the show needed
ENT: never really committed to any one concept, so maybe the only show that never found its footing
DIS: not helped by all of the behind the scenes drama (and the only show that really faced this issue to such an extent) similarly meandering to ENT the first three seasons, but figured itself out by Season 4
I agree with the consensus on TOS. It started off strong from the get-go.
I am the contrarian who disagrees with the popular consensus on TNG. Don't get me wrong. I love TNG. It is the series I grew up with. I'll watch any season of it. However, my favorite season of TNG was and remains season 2. It lost the cheesiness of the first season, while still being focused more on plot and sci-fi than the more character-driven later seasons. I like that. Plus, I very much prefer Pulaski to Crusher. So I'd say that TNG started off rocky, hit its stride in S2, then settled into a "good" spot, but not my favorite, beginning in S3.
I like all of DS9, and some of the S1 episodes are fun, but I think S2 is when it really found its footing.
Voyager I think is backward. I think it started off strong and gradually got worse. I think it remained an okay show to the end, and I enjoyed it, but I much, much, much prefer seasons 1-3 to seasons 4-7. Much.
My thoughts on Picard have been well explored on these boards. I think S1 was utter and complete crap, S2 was okay, and S3 was a masterpiece. YMMV.
TAS didn't run long enough for me to feel that it significantly changed over time. It's good, but it stayed the same pretty much all the way through.
I have not seen enough of Enterprise, Discovery, Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Prodigy, or Short Treks to really offer an opinion on this particular question. None of them have ever hooked me. I've liked some of what I've seen, disliked other things, but just never really felt drawn to watch them. Enterprise, in particular, just bored me any time I've seen it.
I am the contrarian who disagrees with the popular consensus on TNG. Don't get me wrong. I love TNG. It is the series I grew up with. I'll watch any season of it. However, my favorite season of TNG was and remains season 2. It lost the cheesiness of the first season, while still being focused more on plot and sci-fi than the more character-driven later seasons. I like that. Plus, I very much prefer Pulaski to Crusher. So I'd say that TNG started off rocky, hit its stride in S2, then settled into a "good" spot, but not my favorite, beginning in S3.
I like all of DS9, and some of the S1 episodes are fun, but I think S2 is when it really found its footing.
Voyager I think is backward. I think it started off strong and gradually got worse. I think it remained an okay show to the end, and I enjoyed it, but I much, much, much prefer seasons 1-3 to seasons 4-7. Much.
My thoughts on Picard have been well explored on these boards. I think S1 was utter and complete crap, S2 was okay, and S3 was a masterpiece. YMMV.
TAS didn't run long enough for me to feel that it significantly changed over time. It's good, but it stayed the same pretty much all the way through.
I have not seen enough of Enterprise, Discovery, Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Prodigy, or Short Treks to really offer an opinion on this particular question. None of them have ever hooked me. I've liked some of what I've seen, disliked other things, but just never really felt drawn to watch them. Enterprise, in particular, just bored me any time I've seen it.
TOS: Immediately
TNG: Season 3
DS9: Gradually improves all of the first 5 seasons
VOY: Season 3
ENT: Azati Prime
DIS: Never fully, though season 2 stands out
PIC: Season 3
LOW: Never
SNW: Immediately
PRO: 2nd half of first season
TNG: Season 3
DS9: Gradually improves all of the first 5 seasons
VOY: Season 3
ENT: Azati Prime
DIS: Never fully, though season 2 stands out
PIC: Season 3
LOW: Never
SNW: Immediately
PRO: 2nd half of first season
TOS- season 1
TAS- season 1
TNG- season 3
DS9- season 3
VOY- season 4
ENT- Season 3
DSC- season 2
PIC- season 3
LD- Season 1
PRO- Second half of season 1
SNW- Season 1
TAS- season 1
TNG- season 3
DS9- season 3
VOY- season 4
ENT- Season 3
DSC- season 2
PIC- season 3
LD- Season 1
PRO- Second half of season 1
SNW- Season 1
I will give it a shot. Though there is a difference between a singl episode, starting to find it's footing, and being consistently good.
TOS: Immediately. On all 3 counts. I view TOS1 as the best season in the history of Trek TV. The first 3 episodes in production order (The Cage, Where No Man Has Gone Before, and The Corbomite Manuever) are all very strong. The the release order with Man Trap and then Carlie X not quite as good, but WNMHGB is still 3rd.
TAS: Immediately/Never. Not sure TAS ever was consistently good. It is my least favorite Trek show. But some of the strongest episodes were certainly early. The premiere was solid. Yesteryear is E2, and the best of the 22, IMHO. The Lorelei Signal is also a favorite of mine, and that is E4. However good it got, it got there quick.
TNG: Started to find it's footing in S2. Measure of a Man (S2, E9) was the first classic, but Elementary, Dear Data (S2, E3) was clearly better than any S1 offering. Pulaski & Data coming full circle in Peak Performance. Still, it wasn't in full bloom until S3.
DS9. S2 again. The first great episode was a little earlier than TNG, with Duet (S1, E19). But they really start to find their footing in S2 as Necessary Evil, The Maquis (2 PT), The Crossover, and The Jem'Haddar get most of the pieces on the board for the rest of the series. Full bloom maybe not until S4, and S6 is my clear favorite, but fully on its feet by S3.
VOY: Immediately, but then it got got lost and had to find its way again in S4. I thought Caretaker was pretty good and episodes like Paralax, Time and Again, Phage, Eye of the Needle, and Emnanations were strong. And Jetrel late on. Only 16 episodes. But the whole S2 Seska/Chakotay/Kazon kind of lost me, though I did like Basics, and there were some good S2-S3 eps. Towards the end of S3 it regained its footing. Distant Origin to Scorpion.
ENT: S3. While the premier was interesting and S1 had some good eps (The Andorian Incident, Shuttlepod One) and Carbon Creek (S2, E2) might be my favorite episode, I think S3 is where things found their footing. With S4 being the best and building on that S3 foundation. Twilight, Similitude, Carpenter Street, Azati Prime, E2, Countdown, Zero Hour.
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DISCO: Immediately. DISCO's issue, for me, wasn't finding its footing, it was staying on its feet. For me, S1, S2, & S3 all started strongly and ended badly/stupidly. S4 finally stuck the landing but started off worse than the others. For me, the premiere was good, Context is For Kings, Choose Your Pain, Magic To Make The Sanest Man Go Mad, and Into The Forest I Go remain some of my favorite eps and pre-Mirror U S1 is my favorite half season of Disco.
ST: E2, Calypso. Fantastic. Some other good ones, too: Q&A, Escape Artist, Children of Mars.
PIC: Immediately/S3. I thought PIC started off strong in S1 but did not stick the landing. Had a good start to S2 & kinda fell apart before a good finish. S3 was the only season with the full package. But Remembrance, Absolute Candor, and Nepenthe were all excellent. And Impossible Box & Stardust City Rag (if you can get over a bit of over the top ridiculousness at times) were also good.
LD: Back half of S1. Veritas, Crisis Point, No Small Parts were full bloom. LD always nailed the endings. There were hints earlier (Envoys, Much Ado About Boimler).
PRO: Early pary of S1. It is blooming by "Time Amok" (E8), but I would say Dream Catcher>Terror Firma & Kobayashi (E4-E6) is where feet were found.
SNW: Immediately.
TOS: Immediately. On all 3 counts. I view TOS1 as the best season in the history of Trek TV. The first 3 episodes in production order (The Cage, Where No Man Has Gone Before, and The Corbomite Manuever) are all very strong. The the release order with Man Trap and then Carlie X not quite as good, but WNMHGB is still 3rd.
TAS: Immediately/Never. Not sure TAS ever was consistently good. It is my least favorite Trek show. But some of the strongest episodes were certainly early. The premiere was solid. Yesteryear is E2, and the best of the 22, IMHO. The Lorelei Signal is also a favorite of mine, and that is E4. However good it got, it got there quick.
TNG: Started to find it's footing in S2. Measure of a Man (S2, E9) was the first classic, but Elementary, Dear Data (S2, E3) was clearly better than any S1 offering. Pulaski & Data coming full circle in Peak Performance. Still, it wasn't in full bloom until S3.
DS9. S2 again. The first great episode was a little earlier than TNG, with Duet (S1, E19). But they really start to find their footing in S2 as Necessary Evil, The Maquis (2 PT), The Crossover, and The Jem'Haddar get most of the pieces on the board for the rest of the series. Full bloom maybe not until S4, and S6 is my clear favorite, but fully on its feet by S3.
VOY: Immediately, but then it got got lost and had to find its way again in S4. I thought Caretaker was pretty good and episodes like Paralax, Time and Again, Phage, Eye of the Needle, and Emnanations were strong. And Jetrel late on. Only 16 episodes. But the whole S2 Seska/Chakotay/Kazon kind of lost me, though I did like Basics, and there were some good S2-S3 eps. Towards the end of S3 it regained its footing. Distant Origin to Scorpion.
ENT: S3. While the premier was interesting and S1 had some good eps (The Andorian Incident, Shuttlepod One) and Carbon Creek (S2, E2) might be my favorite episode, I think S3 is where things found their footing. With S4 being the best and building on that S3 foundation. Twilight, Similitude, Carpenter Street, Azati Prime, E2, Countdown, Zero Hour.
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DISCO: Immediately. DISCO's issue, for me, wasn't finding its footing, it was staying on its feet. For me, S1, S2, & S3 all started strongly and ended badly/stupidly. S4 finally stuck the landing but started off worse than the others. For me, the premiere was good, Context is For Kings, Choose Your Pain, Magic To Make The Sanest Man Go Mad, and Into The Forest I Go remain some of my favorite eps and pre-Mirror U S1 is my favorite half season of Disco.
ST: E2, Calypso. Fantastic. Some other good ones, too: Q&A, Escape Artist, Children of Mars.
PIC: Immediately/S3. I thought PIC started off strong in S1 but did not stick the landing. Had a good start to S2 & kinda fell apart before a good finish. S3 was the only season with the full package. But Remembrance, Absolute Candor, and Nepenthe were all excellent. And Impossible Box & Stardust City Rag (if you can get over a bit of over the top ridiculousness at times) were also good.
LD: Back half of S1. Veritas, Crisis Point, No Small Parts were full bloom. LD always nailed the endings. There were hints earlier (Envoys, Much Ado About Boimler).
PRO: Early pary of S1. It is blooming by "Time Amok" (E8), but I would say Dream Catcher>Terror Firma & Kobayashi (E4-E6) is where feet were found.
SNW: Immediately.
Voyager was from the beginning and throughout pretty openly More TNG in the Delta Quadrant, I think Season 2 was notable for taking the show in a bit more action-oriented direction, giving fewer nods to the show being stranded and with fewer resources and therefore a crew a little moody, also in having most of the crew becoming slightly more laidback/informal and/but also having Janeway be great idealized/idolized and effective action hero-leader.
Wow, I've been on here for 20+ years and this is the first time I've come over to this part of the boards.
TOS: Pretty much started off strong from the start.
TAS: Never really consistently hit the heights of TOS, but stayed pretty consistently good throughout.
TNG: Seasons 1 and 2 had some good and even great episodes but overall I'm not a huge fan of them, Season 3 is where it really found it's footing and was consistently great from then on.
DS9: I actually just started a rewatch a couple weeks ago, and Season 1 has been a lot better than I remembered, but looking over the episode list Season 2 really had a lot of great episodes. The introduction of the Dominion in Season 3 really gave it a boost, and the absolute best parts of the show were Seasons 5 and 6.
VOY: I haven't watched the whole thing in a while but I know there were some great episode episodes in first three seasons, but the introduction of Seven and the Borg becoming a recurring presence in Season 4 was when the show really found it's footing.
ENT: Had some OK episodes in the first two seasons, but the show didn't really find it's footing until Season 4.
DISCO: Season 1 started rough but slowly improved, was getting good at end and going into Season 2. Season 2 was pretty consistently good, but I don't think the show really took off until the time jump in Season 3.
PIC: Seasons 1 and 2 were both pretty good, but I thought Season 3 was fantastic.
LD: Great from the start
SNW: Season 1 was good, but I thought the show really took off in Season 2.
PRO: Haven't seen enough to judge.
TOS: Pretty much started off strong from the start.
TAS: Never really consistently hit the heights of TOS, but stayed pretty consistently good throughout.
TNG: Seasons 1 and 2 had some good and even great episodes but overall I'm not a huge fan of them, Season 3 is where it really found it's footing and was consistently great from then on.
DS9: I actually just started a rewatch a couple weeks ago, and Season 1 has been a lot better than I remembered, but looking over the episode list Season 2 really had a lot of great episodes. The introduction of the Dominion in Season 3 really gave it a boost, and the absolute best parts of the show were Seasons 5 and 6.
VOY: I haven't watched the whole thing in a while but I know there were some great episode episodes in first three seasons, but the introduction of Seven and the Borg becoming a recurring presence in Season 4 was when the show really found it's footing.
ENT: Had some OK episodes in the first two seasons, but the show didn't really find it's footing until Season 4.
DISCO: Season 1 started rough but slowly improved, was getting good at end and going into Season 2. Season 2 was pretty consistently good, but I don't think the show really took off until the time jump in Season 3.
PIC: Seasons 1 and 2 were both pretty good, but I thought Season 3 was fantastic.
LD: Great from the start
SNW: Season 1 was good, but I thought the show really took off in Season 2.
PRO: Haven't seen enough to judge.
TOS: Got off to a good start with S1. Arguably *lost* its footing as it went on.
TAS: Piggybacked off of TOS; passable from the beginning for what it was.
TNG: Took a few seasons to reach its peak; maybe declined a little toward the end.
DS9: Kind of dull the first 2 seasons, then got REALLY good and kept getting better through the end.
VOY: Similar to DS9's first 2 seasons, but never reached the heights of the former. Improved with the addition of Seven of Nine.
ENT: A sad situation; could have been great if it hadn't been canceled before the Earth-Romulan War really took off.
DIS: Never got good, but felt the most like Trek in the 4th season.
PIC: Kind of a mess. Never really found its footing.
LD: Rough first season, followed by a steady climb in quality through S4, and then a bit of a decline in the final season.
PRO: Okay first season, got MUCH better in the second.
SNW: Series ongoing, judgement withheld.
TAS: Piggybacked off of TOS; passable from the beginning for what it was.
TNG: Took a few seasons to reach its peak; maybe declined a little toward the end.
DS9: Kind of dull the first 2 seasons, then got REALLY good and kept getting better through the end.
VOY: Similar to DS9's first 2 seasons, but never reached the heights of the former. Improved with the addition of Seven of Nine.
ENT: A sad situation; could have been great if it hadn't been canceled before the Earth-Romulan War really took off.
DIS: Never got good, but felt the most like Trek in the 4th season.
PIC: Kind of a mess. Never really found its footing.
LD: Rough first season, followed by a steady climb in quality through S4, and then a bit of a decline in the final season.
PRO: Okay first season, got MUCH better in the second.
SNW: Series ongoing, judgement withheld.
Enterprise was my first Trek, BOT technically my 1st Trek episode ever.
So....
TOS. Mid Season 1. I find it more engaging than TNG-1-3.
TNG - S4. S3 was a hit and miss, imo, but it was a slow ramp up. S1/S2 are terrible. But overrall I find the acting just bad in general.
DS9 - S2 is when i got hooked.
VOY - Never watched.
ENT - I enjoyed S1, S2 was really hit by the lack of a B-cast, but as my first Trek I didn't have a lot of issues veteran Trekkies had with the storylines. S3 hit me in the face win the Xindi. So I'd say from beginning to end I was hooked
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DISC - I tried. S2 got me hooked, and then nada. The Future Fed scenes got lots of cool scenes, tho.
LD - From the beginning.
PIC - What a fucking waste of potential. S1 got my interest, lost it in S2, got it again in S3.
SNW - from the beginning.
So....
TOS. Mid Season 1. I find it more engaging than TNG-1-3.
TNG - S4. S3 was a hit and miss, imo, but it was a slow ramp up. S1/S2 are terrible. But overrall I find the acting just bad in general.
DS9 - S2 is when i got hooked.
VOY - Never watched.
ENT - I enjoyed S1, S2 was really hit by the lack of a B-cast, but as my first Trek I didn't have a lot of issues veteran Trekkies had with the storylines. S3 hit me in the face win the Xindi. So I'd say from beginning to end I was hooked
.DISC - I tried. S2 got me hooked, and then nada. The Future Fed scenes got lots of cool scenes, tho.
LD - From the beginning.
PIC - What a fucking waste of potential. S1 got my interest, lost it in S2, got it again in S3.
SNW - from the beginning.
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