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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x08 - "Labyrinths"

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I knew she looked familiar as a alien race I had seen before but couldn't place it at the time.
 
I've sometimes been Discovery critical, but this is the first season where the arc as a whole just isn't interesting to me. Largely because nothing between Episode 1 and next week has been about the Progenitors at all, just wheel spinning to get to the end of the season arc.
I had been hoping DIS would abandon the season long arc this year because they just can't seem to pull it one off for the entire season. Having a handful of 2 and 3 parters would seem to work better for them. Alas no.
 
It was cool to see the Badlands again

It was cool, I guess. Not sure it was needed since it did not really add anything. They could have used any generic dangerous region of space with technobabble radiation and achieved the same result for the plot. Plus, it did not look anything like the Badlands we saw in DS9. Felt like just a name drop for the sake of nostalgia.
 
Obviously I like season arcs and I liked the first four seasons of Discovery. So, I'm setting that to the side and it isn't the focus of my response...
I had been hoping DIS would abandon the season long arc this year because they just can't seem to pull it one off for the entire season. Having a handful of 2 and 3 parters would seem to work better for them. Alas no.
This season seems pretty episodic to me. Yes, the search is there in the background connecting it, but these episodes all work in isolation just fine.
 
I thought the point of the point of the Academy Psyche Test, is that they only let perfect people with zero psychological issues be 19 year old Star Fleet Ensigns?
The Discovery crew is obviously from a time before they started upholding psychological standards. :rommie:


Can anyone explain how the Discovery didn't know how to navigate the Badlands, given there's 800+ years of experience by now?
A better question, can anyone explain how the Discovery was taking damage just flying through the badlands when 24th century ships could do it just fine so long as they avoided the plasma tornado's.
 
I had mixed feelings, but I think it’s largely because I generally don’t like those “mindscape” episodes they used to do so much of in the Berman years. The gold standard for that particular little sub-genre actually comes from Farscape (“Won’t Get Fooled Again”). The setup was a little lame and talky and lacked tension (we never truly believed Michael was in danger for a second and the scenario was a little dull). I wish it had been a little more imaginative.

Things picked up toward the end. Didn’t quite buy Moll’s rise to power but the Primarch’s sudden assassination was genuine high point of the episode.

I felt the librarian was miscast. She could have been a fun character but the actress’s southern Californian accent and mannerisms were just a little grating.

I’ve generally enjoyed the season a fair bit, just hoping it ends on a high.
 
Not bad at all. It reminded me a little, and I emphasise A LITTLE, of Move Along Home.

You might say to yourself, "How the hell is that a good thing!!?", but it was nice to be reminded of many 90's Sci-fi shows that took characters into a Dreamscape of some description. I think Farscape even did it.

The episode definitely wasn't perfect, but I had some fun with it. Mind-Book humbling "The Great Michael Burnham" was a mini-delight in itself.

The manoeuvre at the end was well executed, but damn those Breen are thick. Brains like wobbly jelly if they're going to fall for that.:p

Well, that was just plain cute.
 
Obviously I like season arcs and I liked the first four seasons of Discovery. So, I'm setting that to the side and it isn't the focus of my response...

This season seems pretty episodic to me. Yes, the search is there in the background connecting it, but these episodes all work in isolation just fine.
That's a good point actually. Although, the way it's executed doesn't really work for me. Or, I should say, it's not stellar. I have found this season to be moderately entertaining. Good decent entertainment overall.

I guess I was thinking the model of ENT's final season. That really worked for me and I think DIS would do better with that type of arrangement. YMMV of course. And it's a moot point now.

Oh, and I like season arcs too. So, I'm not against those by any means. But not a fan of how DIS has handled them during the last three seasons.
 
A better question, can anyone explain how the Discovery was taking damage just flying through the badlands when 24th century ships could do it just fine so long as they avoided the plasma tornado's.
If only Owo or Detmer were there (which ever one flew the ship), they'd have been just fine! Their big chance to save the day and they weren't there! :lol:
 
The Discovery crew is obviously from a time before they started upholding psychological standards. :rommie:
The ones that Reginald Barclay passed? Maxwell? Shaw?

A better question, can anyone explain how the Discovery was taking damage just flying through the badlands when 24th century ships could do it just fine so long as they avoided the plasma tornado's.
They've become the "Worstlands" since DS9.
I have found this season to be moderately entertaining. Good decent entertainment overall.
That's all it really should be.
 
I felt the librarian was miscast. She could have been a fun character but the actress’s southern Californian accent and mannerisms were just a little grating.
Yea... She really felt a bit too "valley girl" for the gravitas the character felt like it was supposed to have.

Though maybe she was the Library's dedicated PR person?


The ones that Reginald Barclay passed? Maxwell? Shaw?
Starfleet Academy is not responsible for psychological trauma that is caused after Academy graduation.
 
What's the in universe reason for Tilly being back on the ship ?

MIchael asked her to serve. I guess Kovich cleared it or something.

As an aside, I think it's interesting how sidelined the "old cast" have been this season. Yeah, Tilly's back, but outside of the first two episodes and Whistlespeak, she's barely been above extra level this season. Stamets is even worse - he got a good turn in Face the Strange, and that's it.

Adira's been bumped back to Reno level as well.

Main cast this season is pretty clearly Michael, Rayner, and Book, with Culber close behind. Plus the baddies.
 
The biggest problem is the clues don't tend to be interesting. It's hard to make a mystery interesting when the puzzle pieces are bland. They should be things that are interesting in themselves. A robot here, a alien transporter their. a book here. Then at the end all the puzzle pieces come together to answer the mystery. The alien robot reads the book that explains how the alien transporter works and once that happens they use the transporter to beam over to the place were the aliens who created everything are located. Something like that.
 
What's the in universe reason for Tilly being back on the ship ?
She accessed data for Michael, and Vance read her in to the Red Directive.
Starfleet Academy is not responsible for psychological trauma that is caused after Academy graduation.
And what trauma happened to Barclay post Academy?

Never mind all the various captains and admirals going evil. I guess once you pass the Academy you can go nuts if you want.
 
That's part of the problem of Discovery, I can't name the senior staff/bridge crew without looking it up.

It's the Michael show in the way that TOS was never the Kirk show, or TNG the Picard show, Voyager the Janeway show, etc. She isn't a strong enough character to be the center of every story.
 
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