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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x06 - "Whistlespeak"

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Tilly may be from a higher gravity world...

(Maybe the in universe excuse for the shift in her appearance has to do with her new job being set some place with a much lower gravity?)

...So she's three times stronger and faster the natives, or maybe her lungs haven't been shredded since birth by her birth planet turning to bullshit?
Although it might be rationalized, it is still a lazy trope that undermines the notion that indigenous peoples may have their own creativity and achievements. It's a lazy and insulting practice.
 
Although it might be rationalized, it is still a lazy trope that undermines the notion that indigenous peoples may have their own creativity and achievements. It's a lazy and insulting practice.

You totally squeeed back in the day, when he Galactican Super Scouts pwned those professional baseball players at playing base ball, with their high gravity super powers.
 
I watched this back to back with a TNG rewatch I'm doing with some youtubers, and the episode was Who Watches the Watchers.... talk about similar themes and topic material. Such a dichotomy of styles. Such an interesting comparison.
 
I watched this back to back with a TNG rewatch I'm doing with some youtubers, and the episode was Who Watches the Watchers.... talk about similar themes and topic material. Such a dichotomy of styles. Such an interesting comparison.
This episode has almost a completely opposite take on the issue than that episode. It's not that similar really.
 
This episode has almost a completely opposite take on the issue than that episode. It's not that similar really.

Thats what makes it a dichotomy and an interesting comparison.

(i am the anti-binger, i watch one a week, and i am a couple weeks behind, just a fyi, since i've been active on these threads the last few weeks.)
 
Kirk would have fixed the other 4 towers, or, he would at least have had tower 5 working since he had to go there to get the next clue.
I voted it a 9.

So you turn the power to the tower off and it comes back on again.:rofl:

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I said the same thing... fix the other towers! Even if the people are dead, they can recolonize the cities eventually!
 
They didn't show it. Tilly shows Michael the carved symbol on the wall of the chamber but we never see them retrieve the device.

We see them with the piece, but not actually retrieving it. Its what had me start wondering if they turned on the other towers.



The Betazoid on the list was named Marina. Nice nod to Marina Sirtis, presumedly.
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I really, really wanted one of them to be Pulaski. As a top molecular biologist and surgeon, she would have been derserving IMO.



This is a really good point. Though, an obvious work-around is that Kreel was a Starfleet officer a la Nog or Worf.

This episode was pretty ho-hum for me, though it had some nice character moments.

It did really bug me that when the oxygen was being depleted from the temple, there were several lit fires that apparently Tilly did not consider snuffing out to try and keep oxygen levels up a little longer.

yeah, i was basically yelling at the tv at that point, going if they are suffocating, the fires would not be burning strong... lol.
 
In a vacuum sure, the writers of Discovery could just claim whatever they wanted and we would have to believe it.

But past writers in the Universe have already decided what technology existed in the 24th Century. And that technology could have easily solved the problem, as it was portrayed to us, without going to the "this is obviously the work of a god" extreme that the Denobulan went to.

And that gives us three options.

1) The Denobulans wanted the natives to think it was done by a god.
2) The Denobulans and Discovery crew were idiots.
3) The writers/directors fucked up in one of a number of different ways.

Knowing the Denobulans were out there way before the 24th century, I kind of assumed that they did this at some point in the past, well before the 24th century. The planet was still on its trade routes path in the 24th, but that has nothing to do with when the technology was installed.
 
Archer knew it was coming though*, so he should have known better.

*He got told about it off-screen by one of the future guys in a scene I just made up.

In my favorite TrekBBS thread ever, a few of us decided it was Al telling Sam Beckett about the Prime Directive, leading to the clunky dialogue from Archer, and thus explaining most of Archer's bumbles.
 
There's nothing really unique in what they had to do. It's a cultural event but there's no specific ritual but to outlast. Again, the Starfleet officers are trained.

Ensigns and Cadets are trained physical masters of their body and the universe.

That was literally a thousand years ago.

The higher up the chain of command you go, the more of your job is about thinking and pointing rather than doing or running faster than a savage that has been training consistently for years to compete towards a world saving religious epiphany.

"Starfleet training is superior!" is unfounded boundless arrogance from a prideful people about to take a great fall.

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