Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x09 - "Lagrange Point"

[fireproof78]

And the breakdown person has a higher chance of getting people killed because they aren't focused on the job at hand. There's a reason why Starfleet officers go through psych tests... it's not just for their mental health, but it's to make sure that they are good enough so other people don't get killed because they can't focus in an emergency.

Agreed but I've seen someone break down and still complete the task. So I'm not inclined to dismiss the Discovery crew out of hand. My preference will always be for Robau or Pike though.

 

[JLA]

No one had a breakdown on Discovery. They talked with each other, connected with each other, talked about their feelings during their mission and through that process they each were stronger than they would've been otherwise.

 

[JLA]

Ask yourself what good mental health really is, what it really looks like.
It's not necessarily some captain looking like a chilly block of ice on the bridge, for example. I'd feel disconnected around that kind of captain, isolated, alone. I'd be more afraid and less likely to be able to complete my mission.

 

[fireproof78]

Ask yourself what good mental health really is, what it really looks like.
It's not necessarily some captain looking like a chilly block of ice on the bridge, for example. I'd feel disconnected around that kind of captain, isolated, alone. I'd be more afraid and less likely to be able to complete my mission.

I don't think many think on what good mental health looks like. And it's really only in the last hundred years or so that this question has been allowed as much serious consideration as we can now. For many, "good mental health" means getting through the day, completing tasks and managing crises as they come. Not always well but still managed.

Most don't seek professional mental health support until other avenues are exhausted. Il

It's a good question but not easily answered.

 

[Farscape One]

Someone who'll wait until later to have a breakdown is a weaker leader than one who processes as much as possible on the bridge. Opening themselves to all their feelings opens their head, gives them access to all their powers and chances of survival are increased.

Let's say a doctor in an E.R. full of hurt and dying people from some catastrophe is in and has a emotional breakdown in the middle of the E.R., and in doing so costs valuable time in giving life saving treatment to those people. That is okay to you? That doctor pouring his heart out at the same time people are bleeding to death is fine?

 

[JLA]

I don't think many think on what good mental health looks like. And it's really only in the last hundred years or so that this question has been allowed as much serious consideration as we can now. For many, "good mental health" means getting through the day, completing tasks and managing crises as they come. Not always well but still managed.

Most don't seek professional mental health support until other avenues are exhausted. Il

It's a good question but not easily answered.

I think Star Trek would and does ask these questions and what they've come up with is very fine. I didn't go looking for good mental health examples in DSC but found them there in various episodes like this one.

 

[Farscape One]

No one had a breakdown on Discovery. They talked with each other, connected with each other, talked about their feelings during their mission and through that process they each were stronger than they would've been otherwise.

Crew were doing this regularly. For example, Stamets in "Face the Strange" was having a meltdown right in front of Rayner... with a ticking clock where second could not be wasted.

I'm fine with having an emotional breakdown, but NOT when it's during an actual emergency with a ticking clock with lives on the line.

People like that are not suited for such positions.

 

[JLA]

Let's say a doctor in an E.R. full of hurt and dying people from some catastrophe is in and has a emotional breakdown in the middle of the E.R., and in doing so costs valuable time in giving life saving treatment to those people. That is okay to you? That doctor pouring his heart out at the same time people are bleeding to death is fine?

Remaining open to our feelings when we're having them prevents the breakdown from happening. Repeatedly stifling emotions when they're happening is what leads to catastrophic breakdowns. Yes, I'd prefer a doctor responsibly caring for themselves while caring for me. If they don't we'll both be up a tree.

 

[JLA]

Crew were doing this regularly. For example, Stamets in "Face the Strange" was having a meltdown right in front of Rayner... with a ticking clock where second could not be wasted.

I'm fine with having an emotional breakdown, but NOT when it's during an actual emergency with a ticking clock with lives on the line.

People like that are not suited for such positions.

Well. Our Stamets is a bit of a special case. He's a genius mushroom scientist, not a chief engineer. He's often thought of leaving Discovery for the Vulcan academy, a moon base...I think we're all open to the possibility he might not be the best fit for the star ship position. He pulled it together well enough to make me comfortable serving with him.

 

[Farscape One]

Remaining open to our feelings when we're having them prevents the breakdown from happening. Repeatedly stifling emotions when they're happening is what leads to catastrophic breakdowns. Yes, I'd prefer a doctor responsibly caring for themselves while caring for me. If they don't we'll both be up a tree.

Responsibly caring for themselves is fine... when not in the middle of your job with lives on the line.



We're going to have to agree to disagree on this, because neither of us are making any progress here.

 

[JLA]

'justify yourselves'
how Breen stormtroopers greet each other

 

[JLA]

I'm a little unnerved by the personal transportation onto the bridge without warning.

 

[Farscape One]

I'm a little unnerved by the personal transportation onto the bridge without warning.

I have to agree with this. I get that it's a lot faster to move throughout the ship, but it really shouldn't be used outside of getting to your red alert stations quickly or in an emergency like medical personnel getting to the injured or an imminent hull breach or something.

 

[JLA]

I never got the impression Mr. Saru had any doubts about his upcoming nuptials. I did feel bad for his Vulcan fiance after his volunteering for the dangerous diplomatic mission on the shuttle trying to dissuade the Breen from showing up where the Discovery and two black holes were.

 

[JLA]

fiancee

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Definitely a gripping, high-tension episode. And I don't see any breakdowns. Just a really big cliffhanger.