Seasons, 5,6 and 7, What would we have seen ?

[Anna Yolei]

Re: Seasons 5, 6 and 7, What would we have seen ?

Hoshi's sis said:
Even though it was the borg, which I thought were too overused in Voyager, a borg queen origin episode sounded interesting to me. Regeneration was done well in my opinion so this one didn't turn me away and groan at the sound of it.

But it's just not the type of story for a prequel series to be doing. It's like having Red Barons in the American Civil War or Samurai in an WWI movie, ya know?

YMMV--Regeneration was a good episode, but we shouldn't have done even *that* on this show.

 

[gblews]

Re: Seasons 5, 6 and 7, What would we have seen ?

Anna Yulelei said:

Hoshi's sis said:
Even though it was the borg, which I thought were too overused in Voyager, a borg queen origin episode sounded interesting to me. Regeneration was done well in my opinion so this one didn't turn me away and groan at the sound of it.

But it's just not the type of story for a prequel series to be doing. It's like having Red Barons in the American Civil War or Samurai in an WWI movie, ya know?

YMMV--Regeneration was a good episode, but we shouldn't have done even *that* on this show.

Disagree. I thought Regeneration, though certainly not perfect, I remember a scene at the end with Archer and T'Pol that was a problem, but other than that, was a credible progression from First Contact.

Another appearance by the Borg in ENT, such as the origin of the Queen story, would depend of course on what was written and the way it was written as to whether or not it would have flown.

BTW HS, I liked what VOY did with the Borg. I think that if all the shows left the air without fleshing out the Borg, there would have been a sizable segment of the fandom lamenting the fact that we never got more of a personal look at this intriguing "race". Would have been a paticular shame for VOY, considering they had Seven as part of the VOY crew.

BTW ENT's exploration the Vulcans was coming along quite nicely and that is something else I think would have seen more of in 5, 6, and 7.

 

[Tralis]

Re: Seasons 5, 6 and 7, What would we have seen ?

Pure genius Odon

 

[Anna Yolei]

Re: Seasons 5, 6 and 7, What would we have seen ?

gblews said:
BTW ENT's exploration the Vulcans was coming along quite nicely and that is something else I think would have seen more of in 5, 6, and 7.

That I do agree with, as it was that which got me into this show to start with. The "Perfect" Vulcans would have been no fun to watch, and people would have bitched about B&B not adding anything to the culture by showing different sides of them anyway.

 

[fleetcaptain]

Re: Seasons 5, 6 and 7, What would we have seen ?

I think it would of been nice to see a Borg Queen origin episode too. Would explain a lot, since the most recent TNG books have mentioned what could leave to building the Borg Queen or how she exists in the first place.

 

[RandyS]

Kegek Kringle said:
But seriously: Assuming Coto stuck around, more quality fan service, though the novelty might have worn off after a season or two. A few great episodes, more bad ones, and some mediocre.

Don't forget more decon chamber scenes and those simulated sex scenes with Trip and T'Pol in that Vulcan acupuncture or whatever the hell it was.

 

[RandyS]

MeanJoePhaser said:

TUCKER AND THE MINDSUCKER
A mysterious being steals Trip's brain.

And finds nothing there.......

 

[MattJC]

RandyS said:


Don't forget more decon chamber scenes and those simulated sex scenes with Trip and T'Pol in that Vulcan acupuncture or whatever the hell it was.

Coto wasn't responisble for the decon chamber scenes or the neuro-pressure.

 

[bentbastard]

Re: Seasons 5, 6 and 7, What would we have seen ?

Three Words: Archer kisses Trip.

Its now been 16 years since Roddenberry said queers will be on Trek. To date NONE of the so-called 'gay episodes' have come close to satisfying the potential queer future. Thank the goddess (and all manner of non-gender specific higher beings) for Torchwood/Dr Who.

 

[Anna Yolei]

MattJC said:

RandyS said:


Don't forget more decon chamber scenes and those simulated sex scenes with Trip and T'Pol in that Vulcan acupuncture or whatever the hell it was.

Coto wasn't responsible for the decon chamber scenes or the neuro-pressure.

Furthermore, season four was the only season devoid of decon/neuro gratuity. The sex stuff that did make it on the show wasn't just HAR HAR LOOK BOOBIES rubbish, either. Thank God.

I kind of thought Coto jammed the fanboy stuff into season four because that's what he hear the fans wanted? *is unsure* After the first two seasons made no attempts to link with TOS, I can't fault him too much, even if it did suck that Enterprise started losing what little identity it had.

 

[MattJC]

I'd be willing to bet that if Coto knew he would get a 5th season he would have spread out the Trek references a bit more. He only had one year to work with.

 

[RandyS]

MattJC said:

RandyS said:


Don't forget more decon chamber scenes and those simulated sex scenes with Trip and T'Pol in that Vulcan acupuncture or whatever the hell it was.

Coto wasn't responisble for the decon chamber scenes or the neuro-pressure.

No, I know that. I was responding to the thread title "what we would have seen in seasins 5,6, and 7". We don't know that Coto would still be in charge.

But it'd be nice to think he would have been.

 

[RandyS]

MattJC said:
I'd be willing to bet that if Coto knew he would get a 5th season he would have spread out the Trek references a bit more. He only had one year to work with.

Yeah, but I liked the Trek references. Given Enterprise's premise, that's what we should have seen from the begining, not Voyager season 8,9, etc.

And of course, the Xindi arc was something that should not have happened at all.

 

[Skywalker]

The Xindi arc could still have easily occurred, with a little reworking. Drop the Sphere Builders entirely and have the attack on Earth be spawned by an alliance between the Xindi-Reptilians and the Romulans, who have promised the Reptilians a place of prominence in their new empire if they take those pesky Humans out.

 

[MattJC]

RandyS said:

Yeah, but I liked the Trek references.

So did I, but I see Anna's point about Enterprise losing it's own identity.

 

[RandyS]

MattJC said:
So did I, but I see Anna's point about Enterprise losing it's own identity.

Me too, which is why I was disapointed when Enterprise turned into a Voyager retread. The show should have been more about setting up starbases, making first contact with races Pike and Kirk encountered, founding the Federation, etc.

And get rid of Faith of the Heart.

And of course shoot Trip the second that jerk opened his worthless, bigoted face. Give Porthos his job. Porthos was more likeable than Trip anyway.

 

[RandyS]

Reindeer1012 said:
The Xindi arc could still have easily occurred, with a little reworking. Drop the Sphere Builders entirely and have the attack on Earth be spawned by an alliance between the Xindi-Reptilians and the Romulans, who have promised the Reptilians a place of prominence in their new empire if they take those pesky Humans out.

You know why I hated the Xindi arc was because the writers made the destruction of Earth the plot of the PREQUEL. We had seen all four of the other casts, all of whom take place LATER, visited Earth at one point or another. By makig the stakes the destruction of Earth in the Prequel, the viewers already know that Earth will be saved, and right there, we lose suspense, and ergo, the reason to watch.

 

[Skywalker]

RandyS said:

Reindeer1012 said:
The Xindi arc could still have easily occurred, with a little reworking. Drop the Sphere Builders entirely and have the attack on Earth be spawned by an alliance between the Xindi-Reptilians and the Romulans, who have promised the Reptilians a place of prominence in their new empire if they take those pesky Humans out.

You know why I hated the Xindi arc was because the writers made the destruction of Earth the plot of the PREQUEL. We had seen all four of the other casts, all of whom take place LATER, visited Earth at one point or another. By makig the stakes the destruction of Earth in the Prequel, the viewers already know that Earth will be saved, and right there, we lose suspense, and ergo, the reason to watch.

Yeah, but we knew that the Earth was going to be saved every other time it had been threatened in past Trek, too. It's not the threat to the planet that matters, it's how the characters react to it and the actions they take in trying to prevent it.

 

[HRHTheKING]

Berman and Braga botched ENT pretty much from the start.

Their portrayal of Vulcans, the boring characters and episodes, the general bland tone, the oversexualised "Seven Of Nine" clone T'Porn, the whole "Temporal Cold War/Xindi/Sphere Builders/Daniels/Future Guy/Suliban" nonsense.

Just a failure on almost every level.

Although personally I thought Coto's season was very fanboyish, by that point Berman and Braga had inflicted so much damage on that show, that it was beyond all help.

 

[DumbDumb2007]

Enterprise could have been the best show but the writers screwed it up. plus the whole show was simply miscast. trinneer should have been cast as an assitant enginer, bakula was awful as captain archer and the character of Tpol was played by someone way too young.