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Nemesis is better than Insurrection: Convince me otherwise.

I have to wonder, suppose that tomorrow scientists discovered a mineral that held the key to curing all cancers and eliminating every single cancer death, but to extract that mineral required forcibly relocating a village of 600 people away from where they have lived for centuries, would we hesitate to do it?
...honestly, as with INS itself, I'd hope it would be possible to pursue a diplomatic path with the 600 people and reach an accord of some sort.

The utter failure of any depiction of diplomacy in INS isn't just a failure of the film but practically a betrayal of its source material, given that TNG placed a strong emphasis on diplomacy over pew-pew.
 
The utter failure of any depiction of diplomacy in INS isn't just a failure of the film but practically a betrayal of its source material, given that TNG placed a strong emphasis on diplomacy over pew-pew.
Doubly so as this wasn't even a situation where talks did not work. They didn't try, they just decided to do whatever they want in utter secrecy. Someone might argue that they couldn't engage in talks because they thought the Ba'ku were pre-warp. I would counterargue that if a species isn't advanced enough to talk to, they shouldn't be targeted for plunder by the Federation.

"The Federation does not interfere in the development of other species...unless they have something we want, apparently." ;)
 
Doubly so as this wasn't even a situation where talks did not work. They didn't try, they just decided to do whatever they want in utter secrecy. Someone might argue that they couldn't engage in talks because they thought the Ba'ku were pre-warp. I would counterargue that if a species isn't advanced enough to talk to, they shouldn't be targeted for plunder by the Federation.

"The Federation does not interfere in the development of other species...unless they have something we want, apparently." ;)
There was a compelling notion that due to the Dominion War the Federation was compromising its own moral integrity...of course, like many of the compelling notions raised by INS, that one ultimately went largely unaddressed within the film.
 
Insurrection seems like a story that, if it had been a TNG episode, would have involved differing points of view from members of the crew, instead of just an outside admiral. Picard and Beverly would have probably had an intense discussion in which they disagreed. Riker would have opinions, as would Worf. Etc. The scenes around that conference table were iconic for TNG. But since the movies basically forgot that anyone other than Picard and Data existed, that didn't happen. And it was to the detriment of the film, IMHO.
 
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