I know I'm scraping at the bottom of the barrel in the Star Trek Movie universe, but I've always viewed Nemesis is not as apocalyptically horrible as some do, and I enjoy watching it every few years.
First, let me acknowledge flaws in Nemesis:
- Shinzon's revenge should have been against Romulus, not Starfleet or Earth. They could involved Star fleet in assisting Romulus against Shinzon
- Shinzon's waiting is attempted to be explained, but I can't figure why he does so. Sitting around violating Troy seems like a poor use of his time.
- The dilemma of nature vs. nurture in the film between Picard and Shinzon (same genes, "You would be doing exactly as I would") isn't a very deep concept in my opinion, and they try to portray it as one.
- Data not taking into account that the rifts would prevent communications outward is unexplainable, leaving them as sitting ducks for Shinzon for the end fight.
- The Argo offroad chase scene seemed like filler, to make Picard more "relatable" as a man's man driving heavy machinery and fast.
- How Shinzon dies is rather unbelievable (he clearly sees Picard grabbing the spike and pulling it down, yet charges forward)... perhaps he was that messed up from his condition, but certainly this piercing was done to include a rather powerful notion of Shinzon pulling himself towards picard, further impaling himself.
Now let me give reasons why I like the movie
- First and foremost (and this isn't true of all movie watchers), the soundtrack is incredible and made the movie impossible to be horrible. The blasting brass during the battle scenes with textural sounds was amazing.
- The Scimitar is completely badass, and the end battle scene is one of the top ship battles in Star Trek overall, up there with Star Trek 6 with Enterprise and Excelsior vs. General Chang. The high spot is when Shinzon blows out the viewscreen of the Enterprise bride, then proudly and mockingly sits in front of Picard to claim dominance over him, attempting to toy with him.. only for Picard to order a battering ram charge. The camera work focuses on closeups of Picard and Shinzon's head as if they're butting heads into each other, It's an amazing scene.
- The dual ideas of both Picard and Data facing other versions of themselves, with a movie named "Nemesis", was/is intriguing. I admit they didn't do the right things with it, but the concept is good.
- While Shinzon has his clear unexplainable weaknesses, he is at times competent and powerful, which is required.
- While some likely gaffe at the scene, I think the Data flying scene to get from the Enterprise to the Scimitar is believable enough and endearing. The notion that Picard refused to leave Data as they escaped further drew Data to go to extreme personal measures to save/help Picard.
Given all that, I thought Insurrection was the ultimate pathetic Star Trek Scene. I do enjoy the opening theme from Goldsmith, it's a beautiful piece in general. The Data flying scene with he, Picard, and Worf singing was wonderful, but the antagonists were weak, completely uncompelling, and had odd/unbelievable methods of technology. I think the ultimate worst moment in Star Trek involved when actual robot tag drones got involved in a "Staredown" with Riker, Troy, LaForge, Crusher, etc. Yes, robots will sit still and semi-fear some determined main characters.... ???. I couldn't get over that. While Shinzon wasn't a great villain, I think Ruafo never made me even think he was competent or dangerous, despite being played by a wonderfully legendary actor.
I see lists that commonly have Insurrection above Nemesis, I don't buy it at all. I'm basically applying the Steven Crowder meme with a sign that says "Nemesis is better than Insurrection: prove me wrong"
Any takers?
(I'd also contend that Nemesis is better than Star Trek V... but that's another story)
First, let me acknowledge flaws in Nemesis:
- Shinzon's revenge should have been against Romulus, not Starfleet or Earth. They could involved Star fleet in assisting Romulus against Shinzon
- Shinzon's waiting is attempted to be explained, but I can't figure why he does so. Sitting around violating Troy seems like a poor use of his time.
- The dilemma of nature vs. nurture in the film between Picard and Shinzon (same genes, "You would be doing exactly as I would") isn't a very deep concept in my opinion, and they try to portray it as one.
- Data not taking into account that the rifts would prevent communications outward is unexplainable, leaving them as sitting ducks for Shinzon for the end fight.
- The Argo offroad chase scene seemed like filler, to make Picard more "relatable" as a man's man driving heavy machinery and fast.
- How Shinzon dies is rather unbelievable (he clearly sees Picard grabbing the spike and pulling it down, yet charges forward)... perhaps he was that messed up from his condition, but certainly this piercing was done to include a rather powerful notion of Shinzon pulling himself towards picard, further impaling himself.
Now let me give reasons why I like the movie
- First and foremost (and this isn't true of all movie watchers), the soundtrack is incredible and made the movie impossible to be horrible. The blasting brass during the battle scenes with textural sounds was amazing.
- The Scimitar is completely badass, and the end battle scene is one of the top ship battles in Star Trek overall, up there with Star Trek 6 with Enterprise and Excelsior vs. General Chang. The high spot is when Shinzon blows out the viewscreen of the Enterprise bride, then proudly and mockingly sits in front of Picard to claim dominance over him, attempting to toy with him.. only for Picard to order a battering ram charge. The camera work focuses on closeups of Picard and Shinzon's head as if they're butting heads into each other, It's an amazing scene.
- The dual ideas of both Picard and Data facing other versions of themselves, with a movie named "Nemesis", was/is intriguing. I admit they didn't do the right things with it, but the concept is good.
- While Shinzon has his clear unexplainable weaknesses, he is at times competent and powerful, which is required.
- While some likely gaffe at the scene, I think the Data flying scene to get from the Enterprise to the Scimitar is believable enough and endearing. The notion that Picard refused to leave Data as they escaped further drew Data to go to extreme personal measures to save/help Picard.
Given all that, I thought Insurrection was the ultimate pathetic Star Trek Scene. I do enjoy the opening theme from Goldsmith, it's a beautiful piece in general. The Data flying scene with he, Picard, and Worf singing was wonderful, but the antagonists were weak, completely uncompelling, and had odd/unbelievable methods of technology. I think the ultimate worst moment in Star Trek involved when actual robot tag drones got involved in a "Staredown" with Riker, Troy, LaForge, Crusher, etc. Yes, robots will sit still and semi-fear some determined main characters.... ???. I couldn't get over that. While Shinzon wasn't a great villain, I think Ruafo never made me even think he was competent or dangerous, despite being played by a wonderfully legendary actor.
I see lists that commonly have Insurrection above Nemesis, I don't buy it at all. I'm basically applying the Steven Crowder meme with a sign that says "Nemesis is better than Insurrection: prove me wrong"
Any takers?
(I'd also contend that Nemesis is better than Star Trek V... but that's another story)
