Fear the Walking Dead
Season 6 / Episode 1 - "The End is the Beginning" - Season Premiere
Airs tonight (10/11/20)
Season 6 / Episode 1 - "The End is the Beginning" - Season Premiere
Airs tonight (10/11/20)
Spoilers Fear the Walking Dead - Season 6
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I know Covid messed things up.. but not sure if this combo is strong enough to sustain the frustration.
I may need to see that extended season finale just before the premiere to remind me where we "ought" to be
I may need to see that extended season finale just before the premiere to remind me where we "ought" to be
Fear the Walking Dead
Season 6 / Episode 1 - "The End is the Beginning" - Season Premiere
Morgan / Issac: Clearly, Morgan was going to survive, but I did not anticipate the rather significant time jump for Morgan to grow a full head of hair. Issac was a good character, but all signs just said he was not long for this series.
Something tells me the person who stitched up Morgan's wound (after he blacked out in the season 5 finale) will be a surprise.
Gangrene's odor attracts walkers? Interesting, since gangrene, while it is the death of tissue, is not the smell of full-on decomposition the walkers were always attracted to.
Morgan's prowess as a one-armed fighter against walkers and LaRoux was both well-executed and brutal. Lennie James is a very sharp actor.
Virginia and the Gang: She's sickening; according to Morgan, he estimated he was on his own for five weeks, yet Virginia still wants his blood. One would guess the season showdown will be between the two--assuming Morgan is fully recovered. Virginia is telegraphing some character housecleaning (the threat of adding more bodies to Morgan's walker border), but I would not guess who will end up going bye-bye. Well, I hope its not the last of the original cast
Josiah LaRoux: He kills the (presumed) innocent by beheading them, and shipping them....grisly, to be sure. Excellent single-purpose character.
NOTES: Strong opening. Although Morgan is still dedicated to helping others, Issac was correct in thinking Morgan waned the bullet to kill him as some sort of penance for...everything, not just the fate of his former companions, but for his violent past that he still has not come to terms with. That said, after killing LaRoux, and apparently abandoning the Aikido staff--the "peace" weapon (associated with Eastman's "All life is precious" philosophy) in favor of the axe & LaRoux's outfit, I take it audiences will be wondering if Morgan is going back to his "Clear" mentality, even as he tries to save his friends, since there's no normal balance between killer and pacifist.
One wonders if he will crack altogether if he leads some of his friends--including Issac's wife and child--to an untimely end.
GRADE: A.
Season 6 / Episode 1 - "The End is the Beginning" - Season Premiere
Morgan / Issac: Clearly, Morgan was going to survive, but I did not anticipate the rather significant time jump for Morgan to grow a full head of hair. Issac was a good character, but all signs just said he was not long for this series.
Something tells me the person who stitched up Morgan's wound (after he blacked out in the season 5 finale) will be a surprise.
Gangrene's odor attracts walkers? Interesting, since gangrene, while it is the death of tissue, is not the smell of full-on decomposition the walkers were always attracted to.
Morgan's prowess as a one-armed fighter against walkers and LaRoux was both well-executed and brutal. Lennie James is a very sharp actor.
Virginia and the Gang: She's sickening; according to Morgan, he estimated he was on his own for five weeks, yet Virginia still wants his blood. One would guess the season showdown will be between the two--assuming Morgan is fully recovered. Virginia is telegraphing some character housecleaning (the threat of adding more bodies to Morgan's walker border), but I would not guess who will end up going bye-bye. Well, I hope its not the last of the original cast
Josiah LaRoux: He kills the (presumed) innocent by beheading them, and shipping them....grisly, to be sure. Excellent single-purpose character.
NOTES: Strong opening. Although Morgan is still dedicated to helping others, Issac was correct in thinking Morgan waned the bullet to kill him as some sort of penance for...everything, not just the fate of his former companions, but for his violent past that he still has not come to terms with. That said, after killing LaRoux, and apparently abandoning the Aikido staff--the "peace" weapon (associated with Eastman's "All life is precious" philosophy) in favor of the axe & LaRoux's outfit, I take it audiences will be wondering if Morgan is going back to his "Clear" mentality, even as he tries to save his friends, since there's no normal balance between killer and pacifist.
One wonders if he will crack altogether if he leads some of his friends--including Issac's wife and child--to an untimely end.
GRADE: A.
Not a bad episode. A bit slow in parts, particularly towards the beginning and I'm not sure what was essentially a single (main) character episode was necessarily the best way to come back after a year off the air. Even if the show had made its original presumed premiere date back in the spring I'd still question the wisdom of such doing the premiere in such a manner, but whatever. Once the episode got going it proved to be entertaining with some interesting guest characters, one-offs though they may be. I'm somewhat intrigued about what are they going to be doing with Morgan this season.
They've been saying that at leas the first part of the season will be an "anthology" with each episode focusing on a different character or group of characters. So we'll at least be getting a few episodes like this one before everyone is back together.
Does anybody remember how everybody was split up? I'm assuming that's how they'll be grouped together for the different episodes.
Morgan has been one of my favorite characters since he was first introduced, so I really enjoyed the focus on him here.
I thought he said Grace fixed him up?
I really liked Isaac, so I was sad when they killed him off. I was disappointed to lose LaRoux too, he was a pretty good villain.
I wonder what the key is for?
I just jumped in a couple seasons back, so I wasn't sure if we were supposed to recognize the guys at the end.
I'm hoping Morgan at sticks around and helps out Isaac's wife. With the way he died, that's the least Morgan could do.
Does anybody remember how everybody was split up? I'm assuming that's how they'll be grouped together for the different episodes.
Morgan has been one of my favorite characters since he was first introduced, so I really enjoyed the focus on him here.
I thought he said Grace fixed him up?
I really liked Isaac, so I was sad when they killed him off. I was disappointed to lose LaRoux too, he was a pretty good villain.
I wonder what the key is for?
I just jumped in a couple seasons back, so I wasn't sure if we were supposed to recognize the guys at the end.
I'm hoping Morgan at sticks around and helps out Isaac's wife. With the way he died, that's the least Morgan could do.
Strand was instrumental in convincing the others to accept Virginia's offer, but she had her men split the group up, transporting them to different locations. Strand whispered to Alicia (in so many words) that being on the inside of Virginia's group would grant them the opportunity to disrupt it.
I believe he blacked out just as the walkers were closing in on him and he spotted a living person intervening.
I like the fact the writers could create such an instantly compelling / threatening character, and have the guts to not milk the single-purpose character. Even badasses can be killed.
I suspect its literally the "key" to some sort of advantage (possibly medical or military in nature) for whatever group has it. Not sure where the spray paint guys were, since they were in a dried up body of water where the sub was beached. That cannot be the dam/lake Issac and his family were using.
EW.com posted their post episode interview with writers/producers Ian Goldberg and Andrew Chambliss.
Apparently I mixed up a couple different bits of information. Morgan does not know who saved him, and he was making the water tower for Grace and the baby.
We will find out who saved Morgan by the end of episode 608.
They also confirm that we will be seeing the graffiti guys, "The end of the beginning", and the sub again.
The whole interview is definitely worth a read.
I'm curious if we're actually going to see Morgan start referring to himself as something else, or if the Morgan Jones is dead thing was purely metaphorical.
Apparently I mixed up a couple different bits of information. Morgan does not know who saved him, and he was making the water tower for Grace and the baby.
We will find out who saved Morgan by the end of episode 608.
They also confirm that we will be seeing the graffiti guys, "The end of the beginning", and the sub again.
The whole interview is definitely worth a read.
I'm curious if we're actually going to see Morgan start referring to himself as something else, or if the Morgan Jones is dead thing was purely metaphorical.
Well, i guess this was better than World Beyond.
I just hope we don't see MOrgan going through the mental instability again. I too hope his "Morgan JOnes is dead" is a metaphor, and that it's more of his mindset, and freeing himself of things that held him back. It seems like they settled on Fear being a "Western"...after shifting from the creepy intro to the WIld West theme...now Morgan has a cowboy hat and horse... The LOne Ranger, for now. (That joke will have to come up soon)
His illness masking his "scent"...interesting. I know him carrying on 5 weeks like that didn't seem "realisitic"...but since it is Walking Dead, i ought to let it slide, and just go with the drama.
I thought the bounty hunter was well done, but just wondering how "needed" a job like that several years into the apocalypse. Will miss seeing him
Kinda sad that we won't see Isaac again (to "pay back" Morgan for his willingness to help)
From the way i saw it, the key was the 2nd key to nuclear missiles in the sub... and somehow, those would be some kind of deterrent to any enemy.
ANd for me, it was confirmed that Virginia's group is in no way connected to the CRM....but it now feels like the Saviors out west. ANd i wonder if Scott Gimple has a master plan as to where this fits in with WOrld and TWD and the RIck Movies.
We'll see how this vignette style works... getting a little sick of everyone separated until the final couple episodes. And 608 until we find out who saved Morgan? Well, i guess if we don't see him for several episodes, it makes sense. ALso, supposedly there is soome REAL time jumps after this...so hoping we get to catch up (again!) to TWD, or at least with Rick or something. ANyone have any idea what year we are into with the APocalypse?
I am guesisng SHerry is the one who saved him. ENough to patch him up, but not enough to take out the fragments.
I just hope we don't see MOrgan going through the mental instability again. I too hope his "Morgan JOnes is dead" is a metaphor, and that it's more of his mindset, and freeing himself of things that held him back. It seems like they settled on Fear being a "Western"...after shifting from the creepy intro to the WIld West theme...now Morgan has a cowboy hat and horse... The LOne Ranger, for now. (That joke will have to come up soon)
His illness masking his "scent"...interesting. I know him carrying on 5 weeks like that didn't seem "realisitic"...but since it is Walking Dead, i ought to let it slide, and just go with the drama.
I thought the bounty hunter was well done, but just wondering how "needed" a job like that several years into the apocalypse. Will miss seeing him
Kinda sad that we won't see Isaac again (to "pay back" Morgan for his willingness to help)
From the way i saw it, the key was the 2nd key to nuclear missiles in the sub... and somehow, those would be some kind of deterrent to any enemy.
ANd for me, it was confirmed that Virginia's group is in no way connected to the CRM....but it now feels like the Saviors out west. ANd i wonder if Scott Gimple has a master plan as to where this fits in with WOrld and TWD and the RIck Movies.
We'll see how this vignette style works... getting a little sick of everyone separated until the final couple episodes. And 608 until we find out who saved Morgan? Well, i guess if we don't see him for several episodes, it makes sense. ALso, supposedly there is soome REAL time jumps after this...so hoping we get to catch up (again!) to TWD, or at least with Rick or something. ANyone have any idea what year we are into with the APocalypse?
I am guesisng SHerry is the one who saved him. ENough to patch him up, but not enough to take out the fragments.
I'm still in the middle of season 3. This might be the next thing I binge watch to get caught up. It looks like there's a completely different cast now, though.
If this episode is indeed only five or six weeks after the season 5 finale like Morgan thinks it is, then this is roughly somewhere in the vicinity of the start of Walking Dead season 9. IIRC, when we see the time jump later in the season it's supposed to be six years, which would sync it up to where Walking Dead and World Beyond currently are. Which I'm sure is not a coincidence.
Alycia, Strand, and Luciana are still around, and another character from earlier seasons popped back up last season. From what I've seen of the earlier cast, I like the current one better. The only character I miss is Madison.
EDIT: Who is Wes? I was looking at the cast list, and it says that he was recurring last season and is a regular this season.
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Mostly different... with some new very likeable characters. It definitely feels better than before
I think Wes was one of the kids,.
They definitely have to do a time jump for their sakes
No doubt about it.
I'd like to think its more about that. I do not want to see the return of the "Clear" Morgan, or any variation of that. Some viewers think that version of Morgan is an "asskicker," but a relentless killer is a regressive plotline for the character, and would trash the careful manner he was changed for the better over the yeas.
Yep. Its a show with cannibalistic corpses, so suffering from gangrene for that length of time...the audience just has to go with it.
Perhaps the need for his services will be explained later, but I would think beheading and delivering victims' heads is a terror technique to keep her "residents" in line, or she's utterly twisted like the Governor and his aquariums of walker heads.
Interesting idea. Using nuclear missiles seems like something that would happen in a series finale.
Not really. All you can do is backtrack to TWD season two and three, where the first time jump occurred, and work your way up from there. Then, there's the Judith age issue, since she was born during season 3.....
Interesting.
Taking up the ax is not a good sign... but last season they kinda overdid it with jokes about Morgan and his "stick".
Hopefully the "Morgan Jones is dead" just means the self-doubt and self-hatred are what has passed. That he doesn't blame himself of Isaac's death, but rather that the baby wouldn't have survived without him (hence Isaac wanting to name the baby Morgan), so he knows his worth.
I am still hoping for a few jokes about him being a "lone ranger" (though it was Coleman DOmingo who portrayed the historical character in that NBC time travel show), and even funnier if the leader of Native Americans in season 3 wanders in (with a Tonto joke of course).
I don't see Fear having the juice to have world Beyond TWD (see, what i did there?
) . I never thought it would be a series finale thing...but maybe that's a hint?Did some research... so the whole Negan thing was right about 2013, so that was when Morgan left. Not sure if they specified how long it took him...but say at the latest 2014... i hope they give it a bigger jump starting next episode
Sherry is the only one i can think of that is "free" and could help? I mean, there might be a few other characters encountered in seasons 1 or 2 that theoretically could...but they have zero connection with Morgan. Though i don't know if Sherry would have any idea who Morgan is. It could be a NEW character...but unless they actually kill off old people, i don't see that being a possibility.
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