Discovery premise rumors

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Almost 100% certain that Section 31 will have absolutely nothing to do with this show, especially as everything that's actually been said by the team making it is about Genes Vision(tm) and optimism for the future and so on and so forth. Doesn't really sit well with a dark show about spies staking cloaking devices.

That might make for an episode plot, but I doubt it would be an over-arching premise or long-term story line of the show.

 

[RJDiogenes]

I really hope it has nothing to do with Section 31.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Yup. My sentiments exactly. I'm sick and tired of Section 31 at this point.

 

[cultcross]

It worked really well in its first appearance or two when it was left ambiguous as to whether such an organisation really existed at all. But like all good ideas it got overused and became silly.

 

[Ronald Held]

Never see Section 31 in this series, so much the better.

 

[Longinus]

Almost 100% certain that Section 31 will have absolutely nothing to do with this show, especially as everything that's actually been said by the team making it is about Genes Vision(tm) and optimism for the future and so on and so forth. Doesn't really sit well with a dark show about spies staking cloaking devices.

I really hope you're right.

 

[DS9forever]

Like the original series' The Enterprise Incident?

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Like the original series' The Enterprise Incident?

That was a single episode, with no involvement from Section 31. It was a mission that Starfleet sent Enterprise on that one time. They weren't intergalactic spies stealing technology every week, nor was there a lame-ass plotline of someone trying to recruit a crew member back into Section 31 to report back to them about the mission (I'm looking at you, Enterprise!)

 

[milo bloom]

I've long felt that the existence of S31 makes "The Enterprise Incident" much easier to swallow. Otherwise you have this generally above-the-board organization that goes totally out of bounds for one mission. It's much easier to believe someone from S31 manipulated a few admirals and tweaked a few orders to get this done.

As for Discovery, I wouldn't like the whole show to be based on S31, but the cat is out of the bag at this point, and I think there are some interesting stories to tell regarding their actions in this time period. But I do want some of the feel of TOS too - that idea of being in new areas of space and seeing completely bizarre and alien things.

 

[Mudd]

Section 31 sucked.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

TOS & TNG have many good episodes that involve espionage and/or subterfuge such as The Enterprise Incident, Unification, Lower Decks, etc. None of them involved Section 31 at all. Not because S31 wasn't invented yet but because it's not needed really.

 

[cultcross]

Sisko poisoned the atmosphere of an entire planet in order to catch one man, and Starfleet appeared fine with it. You don't need section 31 to show Starfleet doing dodgy stuff. We had Homefront/Paradise Lost and In The Pale Moonlight without them, too.

 

[Tesophius]

Michael, a poster over at TrekCore, in the comments of the article about James Frain and the recent schedule pushback (http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/01/sarek-cast-as-star-trek-discovery-moves-off-may-schedule/) has posted about some of the premise of Discovery. He says that it comes from a source of his involved in Discovery's production.

He says "Discovery itself is an advanced prototype equipped with a stolen cloaking device that the Klingons want back quite badly. The ship is highly advanced, and uses experimental technology along with traditional Starfleet technology. The ship was built in secret by section 31 and is used "off the record" by Starfleet to shall we say... 'smooth over diplomacy' ".

I don't see how there can be a cloaking device (that the Klingon's have) 10 years before we see the Romulans with a prototype in "Balance of Terror". (I dislike Enterprise's "Minefield" on multiple levels: the Romulan's proximity to Earth, no one knowing they are there, their apparently fully functional cloaks, etc. - none of it makes sense and I consider it all a giant continuity gaffe and I think Enterprise's producers at one point agreed on this). If Discovery is going this route, I guess they have accepted "Minefield" as cannon and the retconned Romulan/Klingon treaty exchanging technology and ship designs happened earlier than previously understood.

Other than that, what do people think of this premise? Plausible? Not? Do you like it?

I hope that these rumors are false. Sounds like an awful premise that completely narrows down the show to a single conflict. Star Trek is at its best when a ship is just sent off into the unknown.

 

[Megapolis]

"Discovery itself is an advanced prototype equipped with a stolen cloaking device that the Klingons want back quite badly. The ship is highly advanced, and uses experimental technology along with traditional Starfleet technology. The ship was built in secret by section 31 and is used "off the record" by Starfleet to shall we say... 'smooth over diplomacy' ".

It looks like the show is starting to resemble this early rumor.