Really?
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Non-Canonical Way sucked. Worst band of the past decade.
You're not the only one.
Picard created a whole new backstory for the relationship between Picard and Data, while at the same time subverting some of the most seminal moments relating to the construction of android rights (through the "Measure" and "Offspring" episodes). It strip mined Data and Picard as characters but ignored the heart and soul of what their relationship generated for the Star Trek universe.
Alrighty.
Right. So, I re-watched all seven seasons and four movies of TNG, the entirety of it, immediately before Picard, so I wouldn't be relying on faded memory or rose-tinted shades. Picard is faithful to the relationship Picard and Data had in TNG and extrapolates pretty well when you add 20 years of Survivor's Guilt.
And ignoring the heart and soul? If you saw the end of the season finale (I think we're still under spoiler policy), then you know that there was heart and soul to The Scene. To say otherwise is completely false. Whether or not you happen to like it is a different story, but there was heart.
Still canon.
Eep! I was actually quoting my cartoon. The reference is to the propensity of New Trek to drop F-bombs left and right.
Grand canon.
Left and right? I'm guessing an attempt at humor via hyperbole? 
This is going to depend on your tastes, of course, but aside from this Picard's appearance, there is nothing about him that I find familiar.
Frankly, I think it is uncontroversial to say that Patrick Stewart is not terribly invested in the integrity of Picard as a character-- which is fine. He is free to play his roles as he wants. But I think there is a perceptible difference in the way he portrayed Picard on TV and in the movies, and then again on TV. The character is very different from iteration to iteration.
"Survivor's guilt" is exactly one of the things that I believe is out of character. Picard got over Data's death pretty quickly in "The Most Toys", if you recall. He was a fairly dispassionate man on the show. I think Kurtzman just conjured this new Picard from thin air, and Stewart was only too happy to play whatever he was handed.
I am not saying the new show didn't have its own heart, but only that it's treatment of Picard vis Data and Picard vis androids is entirely novel.
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"The Most Toys" was before "The Best of Both Worlds" and Picard's assimilation. He was a changed man after that. It was before "The Inner Light" when he got to learn what having a family of his own was like. It was before "All Good Things" and Generations which both showed Picard come to see the Enterprise crew as his family and him lose is actual family respectively. By sticking with "The Most Toys", you're ignoring Picard's later character development.
Picard wasn't static. He changed as the series and films progressed.
Furthermore, Picard, as they said in "Qpid", is a "very private man". If he was deeply shaken by Data's apparent death in "The Most Toys", he wasn't going to let the crew see it. He kept those emotions firmly in check. I think the end of "Family" was the first time Picard probably lost emotional control in his adult life.
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Yeah, no offense intended but I don’t consume a lot of fan fiction/productions. Axanar kinda ruined that for... well... everyone.
But to be fair, I don’t think it’s fair to suggest they’ve dropped F-bombs left and right. There have been a few and Picard has had more, sure. But I’ve not felt they’ve been out of place. None of the key characters in Picard are in Starfleet and we’ve never heard Picard or Seven or any of the known characters drop an F. Sure, the Admiral dropped a few but Picard was being kind of an ass. If you ask me, he deserved it.
I think it comes down to preference that characters never change rather than growing like humans do.
Sitcoms are notorious for that. Character learns a valuable lesson, forgets it by the next episode.
Picard is a pompous ass in all his appearances across the franchise.
He kept the Romulans out of YOUR sector, buddy.
We must be watching different shows.
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