My negativity.. if that's the word you want to use to sum me up... stems form the fact that I actually care about this franchise. I've cared about it my whole life.
We all care about the franchise. Do you honestly think that we'd all be hanging out on a Star Trek BBS if we didn't? Most of us here are lifelong fans. I remember one night when I was 2 or 3 in a hotel and my dad was flipping through channels and stopped on an episode of Star Trek. I watched from under the covers. I remember being not much older than that and having my mom rent the VHS of TMP and watching it from one of our kitchen table captain's chairs so I could be just like Kirk. (I can't imagine I actually finished that movie at that age... but I appreciate it now.)
I hardly remember a time when Star Trek 2 was unseen by me, and it is one of the best films I think I'll ever see.
I'm sorry, but if TWOK is one of the best films you've ever seen, I think you need to watch a lot more film. Its a good movie. I will admit, I find it a little overrated but I understand that there is a lot of love for the movie. (My feeling that its overrated comes from the fact that it is considered the pinnacle of filmmaking in regards to Trek. That, in my mind, is a low bar if you're going with TWOK or any Star Trek movie in existence.) Its not in my top ten let alone my top 50 movies of all time. But of course, to each his own.
The stories are ok actually, but just the execution is so unappealing to me personally . I do think.. despite me not liking the characters (Mariner, Boimler, and the senior staff) very much, this show could work as a live action series with 43 minutes, where the jokes can be paced well and the dialogue can feel more genuine.
Its a different kind of a series than anything that's come before it in the franchise. Honestly, that's why I find it appealing. Like you, I grew up on the TNG era. It had its place and its time, but if Star Trek is going to survive, its going to need to appeal to a broader base than just those who were growing up watching the adventures of Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Archer and their respective crews. I am not going to suggest for a moment that you can't criticize any of these new shows. They all have their faults. But warts and all, I personally enjoy them. And I care about this franchise. I want to see it succeed. And yes, at some point, there's probably going to be a point where I say, "Yeah, that's not for me." But right now what it needs to do is not lock itself in a box from 1994. It needs to experiment, to evolve. Yeah, that may mean some uncomfortable moments and some realization that this particular incarnation isn't for a viewer. Or it might mean that none of the current iterations are right for the viewer. But, you still have your DVDs of the shows and movies you do love. After all, one of the cornerstones of Star Trek is acceptance. You don't have to like it. You don't have to watch it. But you can accept that it is a thing. And move on. And believe me, I know how hard that can be.
Here is my comparison: when Braga and Moore were first given the assignment to write Generations, which was to have Kirk and Picard meet, Braga said on the commentary that the first thing he does is create an image.. in fact.. and image of what a movie poster could be like, and he imagined one of the two enterprises locked in battle "kirk vs Picard.. this summer" but alas thaey didn't make that movie. Later in the commentary, during the scene where they are actually making eggs together and Braga said "I think [the audience] wanted something a little more high octane than hanging around the house, making eggs, and it's as far from the poster that he imagined.
I'm glad they didn't make that movie. I don't ultimately know what I would have really wanted for Generations, but it was certainly not that. Nor what we got.
This series, LD, is just veering far away from Trek as it could be, mainly because of how quick it is, how it is drawn, how trivial it makes everything feel (from exploration, to first contacts, etc).
The idea is that this show is showing a different side of Starfleet. Not every show can be focused around the most important ship in the fleet. That, in my opinion, gets boring after awhile.
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