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Game The Most Disliked Fifth Season Episode, 2025 Edition

'twas ninja'ed, I was, so here's what I had for what would have been my next save, when the list was far longer:


I sorta liked it at the time, but it wasn't great and even the first rewatch had proven it had aged like fine milk:

TNG: "Silicon Avatar"

It's the crystalline entity used in the latest of sequel fodder! They want to speak with it and play "ping the dinner glass" as an experiment! Lore is namedropped like a pigeon flying in a statue-laden park, but nobody remembered that Lore could actually talk with it, which could also respond by radio wave that Lore could understand, and no morse code was required by him either! Which also begs, is this the same one or another! Naah, it's always just the same one, innit? That's easier! (Where it'd make far more sense if this wasn't the same entity.)

Data has all of Rennie's memories in his memory, how convenient for the cheap mushional stwing puwwin' for the audience! What a spoonful to be spoonfed! He, of all people, also makes the biggest assumption about how Rennie might react to Marr's obsession in killing a thing that killed millions, in the old standby chestnut of a Trek trope that'd been done before, and far better before as well. But Marr's devolvement didn't not work despite it all, but the story's a typical season 5 mess.

Never mind William T Riker, where "T" stands for "Test all bodily fluids for everything" as he cares more about losing his latest fling because she went to try to save another colonist who just happened to be old. Even for Riker, that scene was a bit much to buy in, him now caricaturized so badly that he's just a 2D humpin' machine that gets ticked off whenever he's blocked by a big space baddie, even if it's in the form of a gigantic crystal you'd otherwise see at weddings albeit wrapped in a box. But this is nothing compared to his antics in "The Game"!
 
Once again, an episode where Worf is trying to be a good parent, seeks help and is then undermined by someone who is themselves an example of poor parenting. "Cost of Living" features Lwaxana Troi at her most irritating. I think there's a difference between the occasional spoiling of a child (there's nothing wrong with the entertainers or bath per se) and undercutting both her daughter and someone else's family dynamic. As I keep saying, I don't think Worf gets enough credit for trying to parent properly.

TNG: "Violations"
VOY: "Latent Image"
VOY: "The Disease"
VOY: "The Fight"
VOY: "Warhead"
DIS: "Jinaal"
 
Pretty sure this isn't the first time I've done this, and I may hate myself later, but...saving "The Fight." Because Chakotay's grandfather is played by the excellent Ned Romero, because a bit of Ray Walston is always a good thing, and because I liked the scene where the hallucinatory images of the crew spoke in bits of dialogue culled from earlier in the episode, which struck me as kinda clever.

TNG: "Violations"
VOY: "Latent Image"
VOY: "The Disease"
VOY: "Warhead"
DIS: "Jinaal"
 
Some surprising ones were saved overnight. Jinaal is my choice to save, a good adventure story and Rayner's interviews show what a great new addition he was with some lovely Reno and Linus moments. Saurian revelations mean the 'female' Saurians on STO arent canon but it never made sense they had mammalian breasts anyway unlike Cardassians who seems to be mammal-like reptiles.

TNG: "Violations"
VOY: "Latent Image"
VOY: "The Disease"
VOY: "Warhead"
 
Of what's left,

VOY: "The Disease"

Is my next save as, despite it all, it could have been worse.

It's Trek's first time to tackle with another facet of "Rikering" or "Kirking" that was never hinted at before and not because "We cured durh common cold" fluffstuff from early-TNG (or TOS, based on comparatively charming dialogue in "The Omega Glory") so therefore all cooties are all fully curable, which is a really cheap claim (again, early-TNG had some sour moments along with the brilliant ones... hopefully it was Wesley who said it and not Beverly, but before I digress...)

Because the person afflicted is in the opening credits, it's not going to be their final story and all is cured with ease.

And because the person isn't the captain or first officer, let the captain go down on 'em hard. no pun even remotely intended.

Plus, as a bonus, we'll make the "ailment" as ridiculous as it is as improbable as possible, ensuring the audience won't take any of the episode seriously the censors won't disallow the story from airing --oh there's nothing to say, apart from how this episode's just inane garbage. Or 99.99% is, the idea was bold, but wholly misplaced and misused.

Despite all that, it's impossible not to have sympathy for Harry. First working above and beyond in many episodes and never promoted as just due, now this. He's Trekdom's most tragic character. Especially when Kirk and Riker would be carriers for umpteen dozen forms of cooties, for which no treatment or cure could exist for something that was transmitted into the body just a few hours or days earlier, and cross-species cooties ("zoonotic diseases") is a real thing.

The episode could have been worse, if it played the story for deliberate laughs.

What's left:
TNG: "Violations"
VOY: "Latent Image"
VOY: "The Fight"
VOY: "Warhead"
 
Removing "The Fight" because it was accidentally re-added (though it pains me to do so, I LOATHE "The Fight." :bolian: )

Saving "Violations." There's a lot of ways it could have been better, but I found it an interesting concept.

VOY: "Latent Image"
VOY: "Warhead"
 
Latent Image had a decent idea, which could have better if there had been a follow up on the Doctor's issues in later episodes.

Warhead is a terrible episode though, despite a strong performance from Picardo.
 
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I was kind of rooting for "Latent Image" the whole time and not expecting it to get anywhere near the end, so I liked that!

I haaaaaaaate the Kes erasure of "Latent Image." It drives me nuts that those flashbacks are dated to when Kes was on the ship, and she is nowhere to be seen, even though she was always heavily involved in issues of the Doctor's rights. It's impossible to believe that those events could have occurred at that time without Kes being central.

And the potential fixes were so easy. They set it then so that Seven can not be aware of what happened before, but they could have gotten that same effect by setting it in Seven's early days on the ship, when no one trusted her and she was parked in the cargo bay and not in the loop on anything.

And if not that, at least throw us one line that Kes was off at a conference or something.

And "Warhead" I find almost unwatchably bad, so that's a good winner too.
 
Removing "The Fight" because it was accidentally re-added (though it pains me to do so, I LOATHE "The Fight." :bolian: )

Sorry about that, *blush*.

Saving "Violations." There's a lot of ways it could have been better, but I found it an interesting concept.

The opening had a definite charm to it, but - yeah - it's another one with an interesting and horror genre-worthy psi concept, which was rendered too cheesy and flat, like that pizza left on the table for a few months. At times it comes close to nailing the tone, but somehow doesn't get quite there. Plus, the one dude kept making me think of the Skipper from Gilligan's Island, which didn't help. The soapbox ending where humans are now so perfect definitely didn't help. Season 1 was trying to find itself, but many of its claims or statements of how "we're now perfect in the 24th century" didn't ring quite as hollow as this eppy's claim had. (the juxtaposition of the humans being the lesser species being better in some ways definitely didn't work either. Wait for humans to get the same psi ability and be perfect and then the analogy might work...)
 
It's not my bottom either. Cost of Living, Imaginary Freind, Let He Who is Without Sin, Ferengi Love Songs, and The Fight would be on my remove from existence list.
"Let He Who Is Without Sin" and "The Fight" would probably be my two most hated from the list.

"Cost Of Living", "Imaginary Friend", and "Ferengi Love Songs" I all really like and have saved in previous games. :)
 
Wow, you go to bed and the game ends...

There's a strange lack of communication over Alexander: his mother doesn't bother telling his father he exists for several years and in "New Ground" his grandparents don't bother telling his father that they can no longer look after him.
Another one I thought might win... but as i said, it only takes one fan. If I remember right, I rescued "Shades of Gray" a time or two.
Latent Image had a decent idea, which could have better if there had been a follow up on the Doctor's issues in later episodes.
Latent Image has Janeway put the whole ship at risk because the Doctor got all whiny about receiving what was essentially a life-saving treatment. A being trained to excise an appendix or amputate a limb if necessary should have known better.
I was kind of rooting for "Latent Image" the whole time and not expecting it to get anywhere near the end, so I liked that!
Many people consider it one of Voyager's better episodes (I don’t), so I was surprised to see it win.
 
Still, silver medal out of around 100 episodes. I feel vindicated.

It would have been much better if they had focused the whole show on the question of who erased the Doctor's memory and why (it was a pretty good mystery), with the tension building... and only at the end does the Doc find out that it was Janeway. He is informed what happened, accepts that it was necessary for the good of the crew, and life goes on.
 
The 2022 winner of this game was TNG: "The Perfect Mate."

Which surprised me when I looked it up just now. I saved that one this time. I didn't realize it was the prior winner when doing so.

Voyager is not doing great in the season games. "Warhead" wins this time, "Fair Haven" one the season 6's, and "Natural Law" won the season 7's. Can't argue with any of them, really!

MOST DISLIKED WINNERS, 2025
MAJEL BARRETT APPEARANCE: TAS, Season 1: "The Ambergris Element"
THR'S 100 BEST TREK EPS: TNG, Season 4: "Brothers"
JEFFREY COMBS APPEARANCE: DS9, Season 6: "Profit & Lace"
5TH SEASON: VOY, Season 5: "Warhead"
6TH SEASON: VOY, Season 6: "Fair Haven"
7TH SEASON: VOY, Season 7: "Natural Law"
COUPLE: VOY: Seven/Chakotay
KLINGON: ENT, Season 2: "Marauders"
TWO-PARTER: ENT, Season 4: "Storm Front"
THREE-PARTER: ENT, Season 4: "Borderland/Cold Station 12/The Augments"
SECTION 31: DIS, Season 2: "Perpetual Infinity"
HOLODECK: DIS, Season 3: "Su'Kal"
DIRECTOR JONATHAN FRAKES: DIS, Season 3: "There Is A Tide..."
SEASON PREMIERE: ST, Season 1: "Runaway"
GUINAN APPEARANCE: PIC, Season 2: "Monsters"
REGULAR CHARACTER: PRO: Drednok

Up Next, one of my favorites: "The Most Disliked Season Finale Antagonist"
 
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