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Star Trek TMP: First Viewing Opinion and Queries

As a new fan, there's something I've noticed: those damn uniforms. What is going on with those? Why do they change so much? Kirk has at least 5 different outfits throughout the film, not to mention the general difference between the uniforms there and in the show. And from glimpses from the other films, they change even more! Does anyone have any behind the scenes information for these decisions or perhaps the uniforms' designs ? I'm sure canon reasons have been created for their exsistence, but the general variety within this film and to the next boggles my mind. I'm interested in why Gene and the producers etc felt these were necessary.
1. The color of the uniforms most likely came from Roddenberry(mind you, this is only speculation on my part) as they for the most part were similar to what he had put together for the original pilots of TOS, "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before". In those episodes, there were muted versions of gold and blue, along with a vague beige color that would eventually become red. In TMP it's back to muted blue and gold, with some presumably enlisted crewmen getting the chance to don pure-white.
2. The variety of outfits was probably due to a vastly superior budget compared to Television(Phase II footage I've seen is much more traditional to what TOS had to offer). It also better reflects the variety of attire available to officers and servicepeople in virtually all Armed Services at that time and now. You can go traditional long-sleeved, you can go casual short-sleeved, you can even deign between a two-piece(traditional) or one-piece(a one-sie type jumpsuit) style of uniform.
3. The changes from TWOK and beyond did not come from Rodenberry, but rather the director and creative staff put together for that movie, with a far greater emphasis on Nautical-Military style. I've read Nicholas Meyer's book, The View From the Bridge, and he had a rather notable distate for the "Dr. Denton-esque pajamas" used in TMP, not to mention the overly clean and almost-recreational look of all the ship interiors. Of extra note; the TMP uniforms, most of them, got a red dye job and were used for crewmember jumpsuits throughout Movies 2 through 6.
4. Back to TMP, there was an annoying factor that the shoes were basically sewn into the uniforms themselves, presumably another Roddenberry creation(dude HATED to see zippers and the like in plain view of the cameras). This was wisely ditched by TWOK for obvious reasons.
5. I was surprised to find the rank stripes from TOS were in fact preserved and used in TMP. I had initially believed said rank was located on the tiny shoulder straps(which, yes, they are, and they're most helpful when someone is wearing short sleeves), but I wasn't watching the cuffs at the time.
6. The extra budget also allows for greater elaboration of designs that simply were either unavailable in TOS or may have been cobbled together poorly. Engineering's Environmental Suits and the Space Suits, both in the aborted 'Memory Wall' scene and in the final product, are sterling examples of this. Even the jumpsuits look more like actual jumpsuits instead of the paper-gi extras had to throw on when uniforms weren't available. The Security Armor miiight have saved a few dozen lives on TOS. The Field Jackets as a concept came from The Cage, but were never used beyond it. They functioned about the same. As did the wrist communicators, which I don't think survived beyond TWOK...?
7. Can't forget the Admiral's Uniform either(yes, it's an actual uniform for Admirals; Kirk's rank braids are one thick Commodore Braid plus one more braid... while after he's taken command of the Enterprise, he goes back to the traditional two-full one-part rank of Captain). I imagine in a ensemble that was unfortunately dulled, that two-color look easily stood out as the best of the lot. In fact, it looked so good that one could imagine it standing alongside the actual color schemes of TOS had they been utilized instead.
8. One final notation, about the chest emblem. You may have noticed the circle behind the chevron, and how, for different characters, said circle is different colors. This is a more detailed separation of various fields and services, doing away with the three-field broad display of uniform colors of TOS, and the four separate symbols that were on the chevrons during that time.
 
The changes from TWOK and beyond did not come from Rodenberry, but rather the director and creative staff put together for that movie, with a far greater emphasis on Nautical-Military style.

IMHO the navy grays and the stripes on the sleeve are more military in TMP than the uniforms in TWOK. Even if you go with the "fancy age of sail" uniforms that the TWOK uniforms are meant to evoke, they don't look like any historical uniforms and they don't have the colors either.

I was surprised to find the rank stripes from TOS were in fact preserved and used in TMP.

Yup. Last time we see stripes in Star Trek. Well, until SNW. ENT and Disco don't have them either.

The Field Jackets as a concept came from The Cage, but were never used beyond it. They functioned about the same. As did the wrist communicators, which I don't think survived beyond TWOK...?

Field jackets get another iteration seen in TWOK and The Search for Spock. Wrist communicators go away after TMP. We don't get "wearable tech" again until TNG. (I believe the cast didn't like the wrist coms either.)
 
Field jackets get another iteration seen in TWOK and The Search for Spock. Wrist communicators go away after TMP. We don't get "wearable tech" again until TNG. (I believe the cast didn't like the wrist coms either.)

Looks like Terrell and Chekov were wearing them in the Genesis Cave scenes in TWoK. They just looked more like garden variety digital wrist watches.
 
rather notable distate for the "Dr. Denton-esque pajamas" used in TMP, not to mention the overly clean and almost-recreational look of all the ship interiors
I really liked how the ship looked from tmp to twok, the sets are some of my favourite I've ever seen. What I really enjoy in the TWoK uniforms is the flared pants haha. It overall appears more military (because more people are in actual uniforms instead of shirts w/ some fun stripes on the wrists) yet the bottom half helps elicit that futuristic world peace thing.

I really enjoy that the difference between uniforms in TMP and TWoK is that TWoK has tons of variety in its uniforms, but still maintains unity through colour scheme etc etc whereas TMP felt so random. Still an insane amount of costume changes, though, haha, despite being in a very tense situation with a biogenic weapon and your old enemy chasing you. Could be a fun drinking game to take a shot every time characters change uniform
 
Looks like Terrell and Chekov were wearing them in the Genesis Cave scenes in TWoK. They just looked more like garden variety digital wrist watches.

TMP and TWoK wrist communicators:

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And of course, the latter was used in this famous scene:

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Everything in TMP looks like a great deal of thought was put into it and like it was built from the ground up for the movie. Much of what's in TWOK looks like it was just random rental stuff. Which much of it was, since you can find much of it in everything from Knight Rider to Airplane II.
 
The ones that look pretty much the same as TOS.
Very similar, yeah, but more bell bottomed than TOS.

Either way, I wouldn't change the uniforms in any of the Treks. They all fit each director / creator's vision for the series and suit the sets. TOS uniforms match the TOS Enterprise and the general vibe perfectly, while the TWoK uniforms do the same.
 
Everything in TMP looks like a great deal of thought was put into it and like it was built from the ground up for the movie. Much of what's in TWOK looks like it was just random rental stuff. Which much of it was, since you can find much of it in everything from Knight Rider to Airplane II.
Not to mention all the re-use of footage from TMP. TwOK was filmed on a lower, TV movie-sized budget than TMP.
 
As a new fan, there's something I've noticed: those damn uniforms. What is going on with those? Why do they change so much? Kirk has at least 5 different outfits throughout the film, not to mention the general difference between the uniforms there and in the show.
Costume designer Robert Fletcher said that the concept behind all the different uniform styles seen in TMP were to emulate all the different classes of uniforms Naval officers wear according to their different duties. If someone is working on a flight deck, they're going to wear a different type of uniform than if they're on a formal detail or working in engineering. Plus, they probably figured that a few costume changes would provide more visual variety during the long sequences where the crew is confined to the bridge.

And years later, Fletcher said that he didn't like the TMP uniforms much himself, so presumably he was more satisfied with the TWOK versions.
And from glimpses from the other films, they change even more! Does anyone have any behind the scenes information for these decisions or perhaps the uniforms' designs ?
Director Nicholas Meyer wanted more military looking uniforms that emulated the uniforms seen in the 1937 film The Prisoner of Zenda. What I find fascinating is that the uniforms used in TWOK-TUC were also designed by Robert Fletcher! I'm amazed at how radically different they are from his work on TMP, outside of the department color coding.

It should also be noted that although TFF and TUC used Fletcher's uniform designs, both of those movies used other costume designers who introduced other variations of Starfleet uniforms, like the beige field uniforms seen in TFF. This also led to some unfortunate mistakes like Valeris' mismatched uniform colors in TUC. (They realized the mistake after the first day's shooting, but unfortunately they couldn't afford to reshoot Kim Cattrall's scenes, so they had to stick with the error for the rest of the production.)
 
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