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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 4x04 - "Something Borrowed, Something Green"

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I'm enjoying T'Lyn so far, but am I the only one finding the way she immediately became a part of the lower decker in-group a tiny bit unearned? I especially thought this when she, Mariner and Tendi hugged in this episode.

When she joined the show I thought they'd at least have one episode where she would have butted heads with any of them (the most natural candidate for that would probably have been Mariner). It sometimes feels like they act as if she had always been part of the show.

It's not something that bugs me terribly, but it sometimes feels like I've missed something.

There was a bit of head butting with Tendi in Twovix but that's the only example that springs to mind.
 
When she joined the show I thought they'd at least have one episode where she would have butted heads with any of them (the most natural candidate for that would probably have been Mariner). It sometimes feels like they act as if she had always been part of the show.
Poor Jet, right?

The insane level of vitriol he's sustained since Deep Space 9 dared to show a baseball game has been impressive if nothing else.
See that's just beyond any kind of political divide. I swear, I made it through seven seasons of DS9 JUST so I could see Take Me Out To the Holosuite. AND IT WAS WORTH IT. (Getting other people to do the same? Less easy.)
 
When she joined the show I thought they'd at least have one episode where she would have butted heads with any of them (the most natural candidate for that would probably have been Mariner). It sometimes feels like they act as if she had always been part of the show.
Having new Vulcan characters show up and be a jerk, or at best having their behavior result in miscommunication and friction, is something that feels overdone to me, and I didn't miss it in this case. Having T'Lyn join in the same cohort of freshly minted lieutenent j.g. characters seems (ahem) logical, and makes a reasonable explanation as to why she bonds with their group as opposed to any other random lower-deckers.

I'm sure there'll be some epic head-butting between T'Lyn and some of the other four soon enough. After all, there are plenty of episodes where pairs of the original four get randomly antagonistic for as long as it takes to Learn A Valuable Lesson.
 
Might be my favorite episode of the season. An 8 bordering on 9. None have been a true homerun yet this season, but all good triples or doubles.

At first I was a little disappointed when they aired two episodes in one night as the premiere because that meant only 9 weeks of LDS total. :) But I am now just happy experiencing new eps of LDS as they are so good and comfortable. 6 more weeks to go!

I am flirting with the idea that LDS might be my 3rd favorite Trek now, after DS9 and TNG. I can't quite decide if it has displaced TOS. It's just so fun. Maybe I need to do a mini-TOS rewatch to decide. (SNW is just too new/has too few episodes to really challenge any of the top 4 shows for me, but it is great too.)

When she joined the show I thought they'd at least have one episode where she would have butted heads with any of them (the most natural candidate for that would probably have been Mariner). It sometimes feels like they act as if she had always been part of the show.
I like T'Lyn fitting in. She is a great addition and does feel like she has always been part of the show.
That said, I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit more of a clash in a upcoming episode. Maybe it doesn't have to be with one of the other Lower Deckers, maybe a commanding officer or a visiting Vulcan. I think one of the highlights was how "wej Duj" emphasized her rebellious nature by contrasting her with her even more stodgy crewmates. Something like that could reinforce why she is such a good fit for Lower Decks, and would contribute to her ongoing storyline of impressing the High Council and winning her way back to Vulcan (or not).

How is Mariner a magnet for getting stabbed?

Ransom stabbed her in the foot in S1.

She got hit 3x in the right shoulder in a single ep.

...DAMN IT! Why did I laugh uncontrollably EVERY time Mariner got stabbed? Especially the last one..
Mariner is hit a total of at least 4 times! It took me a second viewing to hear (too much laughing) that during the "Father Daughter Dagger Dance" at the wedding Mariner got hit again. :D

I didn’t get the Twain humor either...
I'm from Missouri and I get it a little. He is such a revered literary figure and humorous and witty, and all of that contrasts a little with his Missouri origin and (not-really-Southern) appearance. So Twain comes with built in absurdity. The accent is a little funny, but mostly just fun to do. And then you get the added humor of playing off the rather goofy portrayal of Twain in "Time's Arrow". It just makes for an entertaining Star Trek-y joke.
 
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I can confirm that, because he said the same thing when I met him. (I asked him about his Twain role and as Deep Throat in THE X-FILES.)
 
Ex scienta astra site owner, who has been praised for his obsessive technical detailing of ships, props and other things.

However, his opinion carries little weight to me, but that happened far before this thread or whatever worries around political opinions.
He's the guy who insists the Kelvinverse ships are way, way smaller than the people who designed them say they are. Until now I thought that was the worst of him. Maybe he'll make a "woke" icon to put next to the episodes and movies where there aren't strong white males involved.
 
I used to love his website though I haven't looked at it much the past few years. Shame to find he's a trifle problematic.
 
I'm enjoying T'Lyn so far, but am I the only one finding the way she immediately became a part of the lower decker in-group a tiny bit unearned? I especially thought this when she, Mariner and Tendi hugged in this episode.

When she joined the show I thought they'd at least have one episode where she would have butted heads with any of them (the most natural candidate for that would probably have been Mariner). It sometimes feels like they act as if she had always been part of the show.

It's not something that bugs me terribly, but it sometimes feels like I've missed something.
I actually don't mind this. If we were allowed to have even slightly longer seasons on streaming platforms, having an episode with that conflict would be welcome (and you're right that Mariner with her long history of weirdness over losing people closest to her would be the logical choice--pardon the pun) but with ten episodes, there's just no time to spare for that. Hell, we saw the limits of that last season with how shafted the Mariner/Jen thing got.

All things considered, they've given more development and growth to her character in her three episodes than characters like Mayweather and Otegas thus far have received without having her take over the series.
 
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