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Spoilers Season 2 FINALE Trailer

So it seems to confirm Michael is the one who sent the 7 signals in this screengrab. You can see 7 red dots "Signal 4" "Signal 6" and "crystal charge level."

The original plan they have prob goes south so last minute Michael knows to send the 7 signals to get the timeline corrected.

Where do you see 7 red dots?

I see a group of 5 in the red fish shaped area and then another 6 above and slightly to the left of those.
 
It's a bit odd how our heroes obsess about the Seven Signs. Several parties saw the original Seven: Klingons, Spock, Starfleet. None of those were anywhere near where the actual Five have been so far! That is, our heroes never associate any of their destinations with the original Seven; they are always surprises to them, and there's the utter failure to mention a Red Sign already having appeared over that location a few months ago... (One'd think the Klingons would be excited about one appearing above Boreth, and would swarm to see when another one did the same, say!) Sometimes we even get given explicit distances, such as Terralysium being farther away than any of the Original Seven.

Why assume the actual ones would have anything to do with the original ones, then? The initial seven could have been a mere catchy ad, with a functional group of sixteen or five to follow.

Timo Saloniemi
 
It's a bit odd how our heroes obsess about the Seven Signs. Several parties saw the original Seven: Klingons, Spock, Starfleet. None of those were anywhere near where the actual Five have been so far! That is, our heroes never associate any of their destinations with the original Seven; they are always surprises to them, and there's the utter failure to mention a Red Sign already having appeared over that location a few months ago... (One'd think the Klingons would be excited about one appearing above Boreth, and would swarm to see when another one did the same, say!) Sometimes we even get given explicit distances, such as Terralysium being farther away than any of the Original Seven.

Why assume the actual ones would have anything to do with the original ones, then? The initial seven could have been a mere catchy ad, with a functional group of sixteen or five to follow.

Timo Saloniemi
The whole thing doesn't make any sense. First they were talking about the seven signals that had appeared, and had a map about their locations. But later they were talking about signals appearing and not knowing when or where it would happen...
 
Here's what happens:

Sphere Data merges with Control and obliterates it. Sphere Data achieves sentience. Meets with Dr Burnham and offers to explore all of time and space. She accepts the offer. Michael heartbroken, but blesses her journey.
 
The whole thing doesn't make any sense. First they were talking about the seven signals that had appeared, and had a map about their locations. But later they were talking about signals appearing and not knowing when or where it would happen...

There isn't much of a contradiction there - "Brother" already shows how they can eat and have their cake there. The first signals only appear for a brief moment, "just long enough to get a reading on them", and the "map" (mock quotes here - they never call it that!) they get has the apparent accuracy of a couple of thousand lightyears at best. It's a bit like "We got a phonecall that there's a crime about to happen - it might be in Utah or Arizona or thereabouts"...

So when the first "actual" signal "stabilizes long enough" for Pike to get a fix, they head for it, and fail. They do so again in the Discovery, at which point the signal disappears. We don't learn if the other signals disappeared at that moment, or long before, but they're certainly gone, and every subsequent signal will then "appear". And of course disappear when the heroes get there.

They never mention having a map. They often show an apparent "map", but its red dots are scattered across a wide area. If even one of those dots is Terralysium, then the scale of the map is galactic, and the other four Red Signs so far are not actually shown on that map (since they would only be one overlapping quadruply redundant dot at that scale). So the "map"/Spock's doodle has nothing to do with the actual locations where Red Signs might subsequently appear. Which is fine and well, because nobody ever says it would have!

The only inconsistency is that they still do think there would be seven of the Signs - even though the only reason for thinking that is the "map" that is not a map...

Of course, we still don't know what a Red Sign is. It's not the time-wormhole the Angel arrives through: those are puny affairs, easy to miss, and indeed sometimes downright stealthy so that Mom can spy on Daughter. It must be something specifically generated, and in the terms of the hero timeline, none have been created yet - Burnham will create the first either this week or perhaps next season.

We also see in the trailer the outgoing wormhole-thingy, supposedly. It looks nothing like the thingy that sucked the suitless Momma the last time around, and doesn't have a hint of red to it. It also doesn't look much like the remaining time-mess that sucked in Pike and Tyler and spat out their evolved probe and the adjoining future AI nastiness. Is it something else that our heroes happen to create when attempting to do a timehole?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Spotted this at the end of the trailer. It almost looks like a Klingon cleave ship, but without the blade. There also appears to be green disruptor fire below it. I think the theory that Tyler went to get help is true.

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This might be a Sech, or just a piece of debris
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They mention 7 red "bursts" in the season opener, that where there then gone. No solid lock on them, just the general area they appeared, at once, and no coherent signal followed.

The individual red "signals" are smaller, localised, and appearing a lot closer to the ships except for New Eden (for a reason).

It looks like Michael tries to work the suit and just creates 7 random bursts of energy before getting it right and doing them one by one.
 
Nice catch. I think you're right, this is possibly evidence of Tyler rallying the Klingons to the battle.
 
The entire end shot of the trailer seems to be frozen in time, nothing is moving, there are frozen phasers/disruptors floating in space behind her.
 
Spotted this at the end of the trailer. It almost looks like a Klingon cleave ship, but without the blade. There also appears to be green disruptor fire below it. I think the theory that Tyler went to get help is true.

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This might be a Sech, or just a piece of debris
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The 'blade' end (on the right) looks like it's already crashed into something.
Might be why the tail is bent also.


Makes ya kinda wonder how big a Klingon Dragonfly can get.
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The 'blade' end (on the right) looks like it's already crashed into something.
One that right, that's from the lensing effect on the time wormhole, warping the image.

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The left side, that's a separate piece of debris or something, it's not connected to it.
 
Nice catch. I think you're right, this is possibly evidence of Tyler rallying the Klingons to the battle.

I also like the theory that Tyler goes to Boreth and asks his son Tenavik and the monks for help.

They come in the lone cleave ship, join the battle, suffer heavy damage and are then somehow pulled into the wormhole along with Discovery. So in the future we have red angel Burnham, a working Discovery with a skeleton crew and Boreth Klingons forced to abandon their damaged ship and join Discovery.
 
I also like the theory that Tyler goes to Boreth and asks his son Tenavik and the monks for help.

They come in the lone cleave ship, join the battle, suffer heavy damage and are then somehow pulled into the wormhole along with Discovery. So in the future we have red angel Burnham, a working Discovery with a skeleton crew and Boreth Klingons forced to abandon their damaged ship and join Discovery.
The key question: if Tenavik leaves the planet, does he return to being a baby - an unbelievably wise & intelligent baby who doesn't want to be a warrior like his father? :lol:
 
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