Spoilers Skeleton Crew [Spoiler Discussion]

[Set Harth]

Let Andor finish up

Well, of course! it's been done for a while. It comes out in less than 3 months, it's not like they would just decline to release it, especially given its reputation. Plus it's basically the SW flagship for 2025 as far as streaming is concerned. The only other thing I know of that they have coming out is another season of Visions.

Also they need to either say the sequel trilogy isn't canon anymore or just move more into the future so you can ignore them. If they do say it isn't canon though I do think it needs to just be said to happen in other universe.

Not gonna happen. That's not how Disney rolls. They appear savvy enough to know that that would disincentivize people from buying the ST, and they want people to continue buying their products. In fact, they've been putting little nods to the ST in their streaming shows ( and several were used to provide backstory for Episode IX ).

 

[fireproof78]

Star Wars acknowledging unpopular elements of the lore?

I am shocked, shocked, I say, to see such a thing.

 

[The Wormhole]

It's old hat to say at this point but they really need to replace Kathryn Kennedy. Fresh Leadership is desperately needed and this time they need to turn to someone with Writing and or DIrecting in their past. Not a bean counter.

Kathleen Kennedy's position will always be held by a "bean counter" because that's the purpose of that job. She doesn't have any authority over the creative side of the franchise, that's currently Filoni's job. Kennedy is just the one who makes sure everything is on time and under budget and whoever replaces her when her time to step down does come is going to be from a similar background as hers, because those are the people who have the necessary qualifications to do that particular job.

 

[Jayson1]

Kathleen Kennedy's position will always be held by a "bean counter" because that's the purpose of that job. She doesn't have any authority over the creative side of the franchise, that's currently Filoni's job. Kennedy is just the one who makes sure everything is on time and under budget and whoever replaces her when her time to step down does come is going to be from a similar background as hers, because those are the people who have the necessary qualifications to do that particular job.

Lucas was in charge before her and while he is very much a bean counter in his own right, he does have a history of writing and directing. While their are of course people above her just like their will be people above the new person, I don't see why a creative type wouldn't be chosen. Or at least allow someone who is charge of the creative side of the business at least have more power and influence. Say what you will about Rick Berman he was smart to give Michael Pillar more power over time, basically as his right hand man.

 

[The Wormhole]

Lucas was in charge before her and while he is very much a bean counter in his own right, he does have a history of writing and directing.

Different scenario entirely as George Lucas is the creator of the franchise and since no studio was interested in ANH before it premiered, he was able to retain complete control over everything until he sold it to Disney in 2012. Now that a studio owns the franchise, a "bean counter" will always be at the top. That's simply how Hollywood works.

Say what you will about Rick Berman he was smart to give Michael Pillar more power over time, basically as his right hand man.

Michael Piller was never Berman's "right hand man." Piller was showrunner on the middle years of TNG and the early years of DS9 and Voyager as well as writer on Insurrection while Berman oversaw the franchise as a whole. But regardless, the relationship between Berman and Piller is not unlike what currently exists between Kennedy and Filoni, aside from the fact that Filoni has more authority over the SW franchise than Piller had with the Trek franchise.

 

[fireproof78]

Kathleen Kennedy's position will always be held by a "bean counter" because that's the purpose of that job. She doesn't have any authority over the creative side of the franchise, that's currently Filoni's job. Kennedy is just the one who makes sure everything is on time and under budget and whoever replaces her when her time to step down does come is going to be from a similar background as hers, because those are the people who have the necessary qualifications to do that particular job.

Welcome to business.

Sorry, fans, but art is a business.

 

[JD]

Dave Filoni is in charge of the creative side of things last I heard.

Chief Creative Officer.

Oh, well never mind then.

That's true. But I just get a sense that we are in better hands than we were under Snyder. I mean I do like many Snyder movies but he really did mess up the DC universe. As for Filoni I have been fan but it does feel like he has stumbled lately and he has also been their for sometime. I think a outsider is needed at this point. They almost need to clean house.

Let Andor finish up because that would be a blow to people who are still fans I think to see such a great show not get a proper end but then start over in everything else. Also they need to either say the sequel trilogy isn't canon anymore or just move more into the future so you can ignore them. If they do say it isn't canon though I do think it needs to just be said to happen in other universe. I am not a fan of completely 100% erasing something because it feels disrespectful to the people who did love those movies. People want the shows they like to always exist in some fashion when it comes to these kind of franchises IMO.

There is no way that is going to happen, they're just to big a part of the franchise.

Lucas was in charge before her and while he is very much a bean counter in his own right, he does have a history of writing and directing. While their are of course people above her just like their will be people above the new person, I don't see why a creative type wouldn't be chosen. Or at least allow someone who is charge of the creative side of the business at least have more power and influence. Say what you will about Rick Berman he was smart to give Michael Pillar more power over time, basically as his right hand man.

Filoni is already the Chief Creative Officer, there's really no way a creative can have more power or influence than that in a company set up the way Lucasfilm is.

 

[Jayson1]

I think Filoni either hasn't enough sway or he might not be as good as we were expecting him to be in his current job. I LOVE "Clone Wars" and "The Mandalorian but we haven't seen his positive impact in anything else and does he even have anything to do with the movies? I mean maybe "The Mandalorian" movies but right now it seems like Kennedy has gotten gun shy. She brings in people and announces movies only for them to fall apart instantly. The worst one being the Top Gun style movie with Patty Jenkins. I was really looking forward to that movie and "Wonder Woman 1984" was a good movie and they should have let her make it.

 

[JD]

Didn't we just hear a few months ago that they were working on that again.
And I would assume since Filoni is CCO that would mean has had at least some role in all of the shows and movies. The only thing I'm not sure about is if that also gives him control over the tie-ins.
And I've been pretty happy with what's been coming out during his time, I've enjoyed everything to some level.
It's worth keeping in mind that there are constantly movies and TV show being developed that don't end up being made, it's just that most of them fly under the radar since they aren't part of a franchise. If anything, I'd say that the problem with these movies and shows isn't that they're going into development and then not being made, it's that they might be announcing them a little too early.

 

[Jayson1]

I've heard rumors they might bring it back. I have a theory that they are waiting for Patty Jenkins have another hit before they allow it to be made.

 

[The Wormhole]

I think Filoni either hasn't enough sway or he might not be as good as we were expecting him to be in his current job.

He hasn't had the job long enough for an impact to have been made. He was only promoted in November 2023, only fifteen months ago. For comparison, fifteen months after Disney bought the franchise (which would have been January 2014) we were still eight months away from the first Disney produced production premiering, Rebels and nearly two years away from The Force Awaken's release.

And before you start going on about The Acolyte or anything else, that and other productions released during 2024 were already in the pipe before he was promoted so they can't be used as a metric of how he's been doing at his job.

does he even have anything to do with the movies?

He will be involved with The Mandalorian and Grogu, the Dawn of the Jedi movie and the Rey movie(s?).

right now it seems like Kennedy has gotten gun shy. She brings in people and announces movies only for them to fall apart instantly.

You do realize half those announcements are only made because Disney wants something to show off at their investor's meetings. Same reason why in Star Trek we've gotten half a dozen fourth Kelvin timeline movies announced only to fall apart. Hell, some of the more recent failure in the MCU are the result of them sticking with something Disney forced them to announce for the investors meetings and they stuck with it even when it became obvious they should have walked away.

You're blaming individuals for problems with the Hollywood system in general.

 

[fireproof78]

As well as ignoring a larger economic situation.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I'll not mourn the show, unless it is officially canceled. I've no time these days to succumb to clickbait.

 

[Set Harth]

He will be involved with The Mandalorian and Grogu, the Dawn of the Jedi movie and the Rey movie(s?).

Isn't he supposed to direct one of the movies?

 

[Tuskin38]

Chief Creative Officer.

Though he’s said himself that the role isn’t as impressive as it sounds

 

[The Wormhole]

Isn't he supposed to direct one of the movies?

Yeah, I think that's The Mandalorian and Grogu, but I'm not 100% certain on that.

 

[Set Harth]

No, Favreau is directing that. They said Filoni was directing another one.

 

[Victoria]

Well. I watched the first episode of Skeleton Crew and have to say....that's the most classically Disney opening of any Star Wars outing. Absolutely unmissably Disney.

 

[JD]

No, Favreau is directing that. They said Filoni was directing another one.

I'm assuming that's going to be the movie that'll tie up the New Republic era shows.

 

[Shawnster]

I liked Skeleton Crew, but it only beats out Resistance for me. If I want to watch Goonies I'll watch Goonies. In the end, it added zilch to the universe and is easily skipable on rewatches.

I'm assuming that's going to be the movie that'll tie up the New Republic era shows.

Is this where the disconnect is between those who loved Skelton Crew and those who didn't? On the one hand we have viewers who enjoy a story set in the Star Wars Universe, and on the other we have viewers only interested in stories that continue the overall narrative? What is that narrative, exactly? Is it the fall of the Republic, the rise of the Empire, the Galactic Civil War, the New Republic, and the rise and fall of the First Order?

What is it about the Star Wars Universe that some feel stories must be confined to that through line? Since this is a Star Trek board first and foremost, how is Stat Trek different? Is it different? Is there one continuous narrative through line in Trek?

Or is this really the same? Every Trek series has focused on Starfleet and the Federation. Even Section 31 gave us a Federation black-ops team with a Starfleet liason in the form of Rachel Garrett. We have never seen anything from Star Trek that was separated from the Federation and Starfleet. We've never even seen a series simply set in the Federation but not involving Starfleet.