California Class. TOS style.
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I mean we do now have huge notifications at the bottom of threads that have been inactive for two years or more now indicating you shouldn't be posting in such a thread.
Guys, it’s not a biggie. All relevant parties are still active on the board and the subject of the thread itself is also still relevant as far as I’m concerned. So I don’t see any problem with reviving this one. Lord knows, we’re not drowning in new threads/discussions here in the Lower Decks subforum. 
Not doubting you but I see no such notifications, not even on a thread as old as this one started by a poster who is still here:
Totally OT - my wifes artistry
That must suck. The dining room is on the first floor but the bathroom is on the third floor. "Who designed this place?!" But seriously, that takes some major skill!
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Naw, the Nebulas are the TNG Mirandas, what with their downward nacelles and ever-changing pods.
That’s a bug then that this thread from 2008 doesn’t show the banner. @EricF might want to look into it at some point. It certainly does show up in some instances, though. Like here, for example.Not doubting you but I see no such notifications, not even on a thread as old as this one started by a poster who is still here:
Totally OT - my wifes artistry
That must suck. The dining room is on the first floor but the bathroom is on the third floor. "Who designed this place?!" But seriously, that takes some major skill!
Yes, we could. But we don’t really want to. Your suggestion regularly comes up in Questions, Suggestions and Feedback, but the staff’s stance has been for a while that we don’t really mind deciding this on a case by case basis.
Yeah, that one does show for me as well. Maybe it's an artifact of the board being on different forum software back then.
Maybe the Fan Art forum doesn't enforce that rule? I know I never see the notifications on threads in the Trek Lit forum, where they actually don't mind threads being resurrected, specifically discussion threads related to older novels, as they feel that's preferable to starting a new thread about a novel that already has a thread there.Not doubting you but I see no such notifications, not even on a thread as old as this one started by a poster who is still here:
But the fact that you can show a notification should mean you could automate the locking of old threads.Totally OT - my wifes artistry
That must suck. The dining room is on the first floor but the bathroom is on the third floor. "Who designed this place?!" But seriously, that takes some major skill!
This thread from 2008 also has the notification.
We could lock old threads, but the general feeling has been that isn't desired. However it can be annoying when a brand new user posts on a ten year old thread "Yeah I like the Enterprise as well" then everyone feels the need to tell them they are necroposting and we end up with 50 more pointless posts on a thread 
So the banner was a compromise of sorts that was easy enough to do.
None of the Fandom sub forums have the banner in place along with Trek Literature since we're expecting some of those to be long running threads that do only get periodic updates.
So the banner was a compromise of sorts that was easy enough to do.
None of the Fandom sub forums have the banner in place along with Trek Literature since we're expecting some of those to be long running threads that do only get periodic updates.
The California-class feels like a contemporary of the Ambassador-class, maybe even the Wolf-359 designs if you think they predate the Galaxy-class.
Going by what I posted above, I think the intent was that the California class was new as of 2368 (TNG season 5). Which would explain its similarities to the Galaxy class's deflector, windows, escape pods, etc., but also with newer differences such as the squared nacelles, covered bussards, recessed bridge dome, pylons with spaces in between, name & registry behind the saucer rather than in front, etc. The BoBW kitbashes just look too much like the Galaxy class (since they are in fact predecessors) for the California class to be part of them.
The color of the hull and the phaser strips remind me of the Ambassador, though.
I'm confused. The hull color looks nothing like the Ambassador class, and the phaser strip goes 3/4 the way around the saucer, with a 1/4 strip in back. The Ambassador has five strips, three in the front three quarters and the two smaller ones in the back last quarter. The Cali's strips look far more like the Galaxy's than the Ambassador's.
Literally the only thing that resembles the Ambassador class is that the Cali has a round saucer. And even that saucer looks nothing like an Ambassador class saucer.
I'm not saying the coloring was exactly like the Ambassador, but it is a blueish/gray similar to the Ambassador, albeit much darker. But that could just be due to the animated style. And the saucer is more round like the Ambassador-class than the Galaxy-class, but yes it's not the same saucer. I thought the phaser strip has a more simplistic look like the Ambassador-class, but again that's probably just the animation style. I don't mean to infer that California-class is made from Ambassador-class parts. I just meant that it invoked a kind of "look" of an older ship that predates the Galaxy-class, but as Mike McMahon said, it probably dates back to around 2368.
It's all good. Sorry if I was sounding snippy.
The one thing I did notice is that the Cali has a lot in common with the other major LDS starship design, the Parliament class, which also has a lot in common with the Galaxy class. I think McMahon's design ethos was to make ships that would have been built during the latter half of TNG but before the TNG movie era with the Sovereigns, Akiras, Steamrunners, Sabers, Novas, Prometheus's, and Intrepids.
We're cool, no worries. Yeah McMahon seems to have wanted to create a design lineage that would have been right at home on TNG, instead of the Oberths, Mirandas, and Excelsiors that we often got for "guest" ships. Ships that would have liked nice alongside the Galaxy and Nebula class.
When LDS premiered, I surmised that the California class was a contemporary to the Ambassador solely on the fact that they both had round saucers, and that the class was supposed to be old per the background material. I have since changed my tune about that. I believe the class is no older than the 5th season of TNG (based on Mike McMahon' comments), and that the round saucer is just a coincidence, since it looks nothing like an Ambassador.
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