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Will Lower Decks ever promote Harry Kim?

Charles Phipps

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I really want this episode at some point.

Have Harry Kim guest star or at least appear in some art as a Five pip Admiral.

OR still as an Ensign.

Either would be cool.
 
I wish they would, just so people can finally stop banging on about it. :D
 
Have Harry Kim guest star or at least appear in some art as a Five pip Admiral.

Yeah, that would be stupid.

The youngest Admiral of any grade that we've ever seen was RADM Kirk in TMP with a 'time in service' of about twenty years, including several as a captain.

While Kim certainly should have been promoted when they got back, he's only got about a third of that time by then (so he might 'fast track' to lieutenant commander), there's only about another three-and-a-half years after that point to the end of LD s4 so promotion to substantive commander or captain-by-billet of a minor vessel at most but flag rank isn't credible.

OR still as an Ensign.

No more credible that the other option IMO, but at least aligns with on-screen canon.
 
I wish they would, just so people can finally stop banging on about it. :D

That won't stop people. Trek beefs can't be squashed. I can't say with 100% acceptance that someday on my death bed, my final words won't be "Janeway should have went to prison because of Tuvix" which will be even worst if I someday get married and have kids and they are sitting around me when I pass.
 
He's in Prodigy season 2, if that ever sees light of day.

They wanted him for a cameo in season 3 of Picard as a captain but were denied because the character has been made exclusive to Prodigy.
 
He's in Prodigy season 2, if that ever sees light of day.

They wanted him for a cameo in season 3 of Picard as a captain but were denied because the character has been made exclusive to Prodigy.

So that is why Prodigy was cancelled! He was probably written to have a promotion and someone with wisdom was like 'Oh Hell No! Shut it down people. This show is over."
 
I wish they would, just so people can finally stop banging on about it. :D

By "people", you mean "Oddish", right? ;)

Wasn't Harry Kim promoted to Captain at some point of the time-skip in "endgame"?

In "Endgame", in "Star Trek Online", and in "The Autobiography of Kathryn Janeway". Other literature, set immediately after VOY, only promotes him to lieutenant.

He's in Prodigy season 2, if that ever sees light of day.

Garrett Wang said Harry "belongs" to Prodigy. He might have been set to return in S3 or later, seasons that probably won't happen. But given how long it would likely take to finalize PRO's demise and officially cut Harry loose... I don't see him being in LD S4 or S5.

Bad news: if we don't see Harry in PRO S2, I don't think we'll see him for a very long time. As in "Garrett Wang might die of old age first".

Good news: Because PRO is competently written, it is unlikely to continue either a childish vendetta or a running joke that its target audience wouldn't understand and pretty much wasn't funny anyway. Ergo, if Harry appears, he will most likely be a higher rank... I could see him as Voyager-A's first officer.

Unknown News: If Harry doesn't return in PRO, he can only return in LD; no other show in the 24th century exists. And yes, if the LD writers think they can get a joke from it, Harry could return as an ensign. However, given that the LD ensigns were promoted the Voyager episode, that might be a subtle shot at VOY, i.e. "we're the parody Trek, but even we promoted our ensigns". If that be the case, then it's unlikely they would participate in an action they just expressed contempt for.

Damn! Even the mannequin based on him is stuck as an Ensign.

They had to do that... Trekkies would think it was Tuvok or Ayala or some other rando character.
 
In "Endgame", in "Star Trek Online", and in "The Autobiography of Kathryn Janeway". Other literature, set immediately after VOY, only promotes him to lieutenant.
"Oh by the way Harry, here's a second pip. Sorry I didn't give it to you earlier, I think it fell down the back of the couch." ;)

Unknown News: If Harry doesn't return in PRO, he can only return in LD; no other show in the 24th century exists.
But maybe a 25th century show? There seems to be a reasonable (but diminishing with each passing day) push for "Legacy" to happen.
 
"Oh by the way Harry, here's a second pip. Sorry I didn't give it to you earlier, I think it fell down the back of the couch." ;)
Are you SURE you didn't read "Where's my Box"? I mean, practically the same scenario.

But maybe a 25th century show? There seems to be a reasonable (but diminishing with each passing day) push for "Legacy" to happen.
Same scenario. PRO has to be pronounced dead before any other show can use the character.
 
Same scenario. PRO has to be pronounced dead before any other show can use the character.
I wasn't arguing the legal ins-and-outs of his appearance, only that there are still theoretical avenues down the road other than Lower Decks if the character does become available.
 
I wasn't arguing the legal ins-and-outs of his appearance, only that there are still theoretical avenues down the road other than Lower Decks if the character does become available.
Oh, indubitably. The question is, do they want to? I mean, he's supposed to appear on Picard as a captain... scrapped. He's supposed to appear on Prodigy... canceled. Lower Decks is still out there... blocked. Convenient, isn't it?
 
Why do people keep saying Harry was "assigned" to Prodigy? He's never actually appeared on the show, has he?

I mean, if Tom Paris can appear on LD, why can't Harry? Paramount owns the whole thing, any show should be able to use whatever character they want.
 
My thoughts exactly. Tuvok appeared as well, but had no speaking role. Plus, the recent VOY "Deep Cuts" holodeck characters.
 
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