Garrett Wang on his original role in PIC S3.

[The Wormhole]

We know in the prime universe that Kirk was Lt when he graduated. Same with Nog in the 24th century.

Nog never graduated. During his third year as a Cadet he was granted a field commission as an Ensign, and then a year and a half later when the War ended, he was promoted to Lieutenant.

 

[Oddish]

Nog never graduated. During his third year as a Cadet he was granted a field commission as an Ensign, and then a year and a half later when the War ended, he was promoted to Lieutenant.

Wartime promotions are a thing in any military. And Starfleet's close enough. Look at Rico in "Starship Troopers".

 

[fireproof78]

Wartime promotions are a thing in any military. And Starfleet's close enough. Look at Rico in "Starship Troopers".

Book or movie?

In the book he went to OCS.

 

[Oddish]

Book or movie?

Movie. I read the book, and it was good as well. But the movie had Michael Ironside in it.

 

[fireproof78]

Movie. I read the book, and it was good as well. But the movie had Michael Ironside in it.

I'm sad I can't get over to Seattle for Emerald City comic con as three cast members will be there, including Ironsides.

 

[Oddish]

Might check it out. It's just a light rail ride from where I am.

 

[at Quark's]

Nog never graduated. During his third year as a Cadet he was granted a field commission as an Ensign, and then a year and a half later when the War ended, he was promoted to Lieutenant.

As Garak said to Nog during the battle in Sacrifice Of Angels : 'you're getting quite an education'. Probably, by the end of the war he pretty much had the equivalent of a Starfleet degree in knowledge, and quite possibly significantly beyond that.

Perhaps Starfleet saw it fit to offer him to come back after the war to finish his formal education in some accelerated course, dispensing with a lot of the stuff he had learned during service anyway, concentrating on the more theoretical subjects he still lacked (advanced courses such as Hyperdimensional Transkinetic Quantum Fractal Neural Geometries And Other Fancy Technobabble Like That).

 

[Oddish]

Like Wesley. After three years on Enterprise's bridge and earning the right to wear the uniform, he probably could have taught some of the classes at the academy.

 

[The Wormhole]

Perhaps Starfleet saw it fit to offer him to come back after the war to finish his formal education in some accelerated course, dispensing with a lot of the stuff he had learned during service anyway, concentrating on the more theoretical subjects he still lacked (advanced courses such as Hyperdimensional Transkinetic Quantum Fractal Neural Geometries And Other Fancy Technobabble Like That).

That's a hypothetical only. As it stands canonically, Nog never did graduate the Academy, which was the point I was making.

 

[Oddish]

It's a reality of war. If no one on Voyager had been promoted at any time, aside from replacing dead people, I would have considered Harry's long ensignhood a reality of Voyager's situation. Just as war necessitates a highly dynamic command structure, a stranded ship would theoretically justify a static one.

However, the reality was different. Tuvok was promoted, without anyone dying. Tom, same. And thanks to the Vidiians killing Durst, there was a vacancy for an Operations lieutenant.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Shelby is much more believable as CIC (she's always been an ambitious political animal).

And she had a long and productive career in Starfleet, if Peter David's "New Frontier" novels (and her appearance in LD) are any indication.

I say, if an admiral needed to buy the farm (and Shelby's death isn't confirmed), then better "Eppy" (Captain Calhoun's pet name for her, which she despises) than the long-suffering Harry.

 

[Moonglum]

Movie. I read the book, and it was good as well. But the movie had Michael Ironside in it.

Even better, the movie also had Clancy Brown!