Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in FC?
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F
"First Contact" had a very dark theme, so the costumes had to reflect that mood. Also, the toy licensees apply an amount of pressure; there is an expectation that the costumes will change, or at least have cool variations and accessories, in order to sell more toys. Otherwise, collectors only cherrypick and get the all-new villains and aliens, not the main cast.
The main reason they started being used on DS9 was that the expensive, motion-picture quality uniforms were available, and the old DS9 jumpsuits would have been starting to show some wear.
"First Contact" had a very dark theme, so the costumes had to reflect that mood. Also, the toy licensees apply an amount of pressure; there is an expectation that the costumes will change, or at least have cool variations and accessories, in order to sell more toys. Otherwise, collectors only cherrypick and get the all-new villains and aliens, not the main cast.
The main reason they started being used on DS9 was that the expensive, motion-picture quality uniforms were available, and the old DS9 jumpsuits would have been starting to show some wear.
Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F
The FC uniforms are my favorite modern ones by far. Frankly, I never understood why Voyager never got them as well, even if only post "Message in a Bottle" and contact with SF. I mean Voyager got the new phasers and tricorders when DS9 and FC did. So why not the uniforms?
Some have tried the in-show argument of 'resources' but that's BS; uniforms are recycled in and out of the replicator to be cleaned, or so we've been lead to believe. How hard would it have been on their resources to update the patterns, hrm?
Real world, they certainly would have added in and taken out new and old stock now and then, so...
*Shrug*
Always bugged me, cause the FC uniforms looked like UNIFORMS.
The FC uniforms are my favorite modern ones by far. Frankly, I never understood why Voyager never got them as well, even if only post "Message in a Bottle" and contact with SF. I mean Voyager got the new phasers and tricorders when DS9 and FC did. So why not the uniforms?
Some have tried the in-show argument of 'resources' but that's BS; uniforms are recycled in and out of the replicator to be cleaned, or so we've been lead to believe. How hard would it have been on their resources to update the patterns, hrm?
Real world, they certainly would have added in and taken out new and old stock now and then, so...
*Shrug*
Always bugged me, cause the FC uniforms looked like UNIFORMS.
Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F
It was done to give the TNG movies a different look from the TV series, IMO. New uniforms were designed for Generations, but they were rejected at very much the last minute.
It was done to give the TNG movies a different look from the TV series, IMO. New uniforms were designed for Generations, but they were rejected at very much the last minute.
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F
I thought they grey-topped unforms looked good in FC, but pretty soon after they were introduced in DS9, I realized how visually uninteresing they were. And, they looked really uncomfortably hot. Tank top, coloured shirt, waistcoat then uniform jacket? Maybe on Delta Vega or Andoria, but not a climate controlled starship!
I thought they grey-topped unforms looked good in FC, but pretty soon after they were introduced in DS9, I realized how visually uninteresing they were. And, they looked really uncomfortably hot. Tank top, coloured shirt, waistcoat then uniform jacket? Maybe on Delta Vega or Andoria, but not a climate controlled starship!
Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F
This is the correct answer. The old ones looked fine on DS9 because of the environment but they were hideous on Voyager.
Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F
I believe only captains wore the waistcoat.
Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F
You saw Dax with her uniform unzipped, but no waistcoat.
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/6x16/changeofheart_536.jpg
You're mistaken. We've only seen captains wear the waistcoat.
You saw Dax with her uniform unzipped, but no waistcoat.
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/6x16/changeofheart_536.jpg
Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F
Probably the same reason Generations used dimmer lighting than TNG, and the same reason the TOS movie uniforms used more subdued colors than the TV uniforms. TV shows are made to be watched on relatively small screens in people's living rooms with other sources of light around, whereas movies are made to be shown on huge screens in enclosed chambers that are otherwise extremely dark. The kind of bright colors that work well on TV would be too garish for movie screens, so feature-film cinematographers, costume designers, set designers, and the like tend to favor more subdued color and lighting. Or at least, that was the case back when the movies in question were made, before giant flatscreen TVs were common and before movie theaters began using digital projectors. The difference is probably a lot less now than it was back then.
Probably the same reason Generations used dimmer lighting than TNG, and the same reason the TOS movie uniforms used more subdued colors than the TV uniforms. TV shows are made to be watched on relatively small screens in people's living rooms with other sources of light around, whereas movies are made to be shown on huge screens in enclosed chambers that are otherwise extremely dark. The kind of bright colors that work well on TV would be too garish for movie screens, so feature-film cinematographers, costume designers, set designers, and the like tend to favor more subdued color and lighting. Or at least, that was the case back when the movies in question were made, before giant flatscreen TVs were common and before movie theaters began using digital projectors. The difference is probably a lot less now than it was back then.
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