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What if Garrett Wang had left Voyager instead of Jennifer Lien?

So continuity made you "acquire" older episodes?

If everyone felt like that, and was willing to pay for the p...
 
I didn't actually acquire them. I just watched episodes that somebody uploaded online.

But yes, there are people who really wish that old episodes would be made available commercially, at least special ones, or particular storylines.

I mean... just think. I'm a General Hospital fan and I've never seen Luke and Laura's wedding! :(
 
"acquired" is a polite way of saying stealing.

:)

We all do it.

(Waaaaaait for it...)
 
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Timewalker we used to wag school to watch General Hospital. Luke and Laura were on it at the time, but I can't remember if they were sexually tensioned pre-lovers, lovers, married, or post married dramatic disastered.

If you want a modern soap I highly recommend The O.C. which has a Firefly luminary (well she is luminous to me) as a mai character, some truly hilarious moments both intended and unintended and is set in a fantasy land.
 
"acquired" is a polite way of saying steeling.

:)

We all do it.

(Waaaaaait for it...)
How can it be stealing if all I do is watch what somebody else uploaded? Since I can't access a lot of the American sites where this stuff is available legitimately, I have to watch it where I can find it. I don't download it, and if it were available on Netflix (a service I don't mind paying for), I'd be happy to watch it there. I understand there's a TV channel called Soapnet, but it's not available in my region.

Timewalker we used to wag school to watch General Hospital. Luke and Laura were on it at the time, but I can't remember if they were sexually tensioned pre-lovers, lovers, married, or post married dramatic disastered.

If you want a modern soap I highly recommend The O.C. which has a Firefly luminary (well she is luminous to me) as a mai character, some truly hilarious moments both intended and unintended and is set in a fantasy land.
I've vaguely heard of O.C. but have no idea what it's about. I saw Firefly this summer on Netflix and loved it, but then I adored Nathan Filion as Joey Buchanan on One Life to Live.
 
The OC is not modern. It's turn of the century.

It's also not a soap. It's a heavily serialized weekly drama that's mimicking a soap.

Could you imagine what would have happened to the quality of the show if they had to make 260 episodes a year?
 
Firefly is some kind of perfection.. that I don't even hope to find again. The actor from Firefly was Melinda Clarke who plays Julie Cooper, a main character who is hilariously over the top. In Firefly she played Nandi in Heart of Gold (my favorite episode). She was also on an Enterprise episode but I know you don't watch that. Anyway.. it's colourful and ridiculous and fast moving and set in some fantasy rich land where everyone's houses are bigger than ten normal houses and JERI RYAN IS IN IT FOR A STORY ARC AND SHE IS STUNNING.

And it is modern compared to the soaps that Timewalker was talking about, it is snappy. Yes I know it's not technically a soap but uses the addictive qualities of soaps.
 
How can it be stealing if all I do is watch what somebody else uploaded? Since I can't access a lot of the American sites where this stuff is available legitimately, I have to watch it where I can find it. I don't download it, and if it were available on Netflix (a service I don't mind paying for), I'd be happy to watch it there. I understand there's a TV channel called Soapnet, but it's not available in my region.

Streaming is downloading data into your tempfolder in an orderly manner that you can watch the media as you are downloading. Until you close your browser you have the entire legally protected episode on your computer illegally, and if you look for it, you can save whatever it is someone permanent.

Make no mistake, that not only is this piracy, but if you used a download manager, you would have been able to download the episode in exactly the same manner you streamed it, kept gigs of data effortlessly and then given it all to your friends on portable storage.

Your claim is like that you have not murdered someone if you have properly disposed of the corpse, but there's no such thing as the perfect crime.

The psychotic thing is that despite what the law says, what they really object to is how much of their propriety media we are storing in our minds, but there is a stigma to words like "Thoughtcrime".
 
The web versions of AMC and OLTL have been cancelled too, I think due to the law suit going on between ABC and Prospect Park, the company that bought the rights to do the soaps.
I'm sure Luke and Laura's wedding is youtube.
 
Depends. Youtube respects copyrights and will pull down any tubes after they have been a approached by a lawyer working for the copyright holders, and it wouldn't amaze me if there are lawyers who specialize in Youtube-law these days

And Time Walker was playing with time, she probably meant that until she watched that massive block online recently, that there was a huge hole in her general soap knowledge that needed filling.
 
How can it be stealing if all I do is watch what somebody else uploaded? Since I can't access a lot of the American sites where this stuff is available legitimately, I have to watch it where I can find it. I don't download it, and if it were available on Netflix (a service I don't mind paying for), I'd be happy to watch it there. I understand there's a TV channel called Soapnet, but it's not available in my region.
Streaming is downloading data into your tempfolder in an orderly manner that you can watch the media as you are downloading. Until you close your browser you have the entire legally protected episode on your computer illegally, and if you look for it, you can save whatever it is someone permanent.

Make no mistake, that not only is this piracy, but if you used a download manager, you would have been able to download the episode in exactly the same manner you streamed it, kept gigs of data effortlessly and then given it all to your friends on portable storage.

Your claim is like that you have not murdered someone if you have properly disposed of the corpse, but there's no such thing as the perfect crime.

The psychotic thing is that despite what the law says, what they really object to is how much of their propriety media we are storing in our minds, but there is a stigma to words like "Thoughtcrime".
I'm sure there are lots of people who do exactly what you say, but I don't consider it stealing to watch something on Youtube. I don't keep it, copy it, or share it with anyone - I don't even know how to do that. And yes, sometimes the accounts of people who upload soaps there get closed. It's annoying, but this is one of the reasons the networks should make this stuff commercially available. From what I've seen on some of the TV forums, there are many people who would gladly pay for legitimate DVDs of certain shows or storylines.

The whole issue of copyright and using images without permission is mindboggling. I realize that artists don't like people not paying; after all, I've sold some of my original creations and wasn't too pleased when somebody shoplifted some stuff from where it was being sold. When you talk about online stuff... I wonder how many people who use avatars on this site have paid the original creators for that privilege? My own avatar is from a smiley site where I do pay a membership fee to access the extra stuff that's not available to non-premium members.

The web versions of AMC and OLTL have been cancelled too, I think due to the law suit going on between ABC and Prospect Park, the company that bought the rights to do the soaps.
I'm sure Luke and Laura's wedding is youtube.
Yeah, that lawsuit is crazy, as regards OLTL. Prospect Park owns the characters, but the actors' contracts are with ABC. So General Hospital gets the actors, and everyone has to pretend that most of the events dealing with when their OLTL characters were crossed over with GH never happened because nobody's allowed to say those characters' names or refer to what happened in their storylines in any but the most oblique way.

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And Time Walker was playing with time, she probably meant that until she watched that massive block online recently, that there was a huge hole in her general soap knowledge that needed filling.
Exactly. The current storylines and commenters on the soap forums kept talking about things that happened years ago and I was utterly lost with trying to figure it out. So I decided to catch up, and discovered that yes, you can watch 3+ years' worth of GH over a summer, especially when somebody has been considerate and deleted the commercials. The average hour-long GH episode is only about 36 minutes nowadays.
 
Did they take out the credits too? Because that's another 3 minutes at the front, and three minutes at the back.

By the way, I am an immoral bad person who steals a lot of media and I'm fine with it, and if caught I am willing to pay them all back the billions I owe, at 10 bucks a week.

I'm not judging you, I'm welcoming you to a club.

Lets add your fines up?

$250,000 fine x 600 episodes = $150,000,000.

150,000,000 weeks = 2,884,610 years of $10 weekly direct payments.

If they already have you for the next 3 megayears, so why not just let it ride?
 
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Duh.

You do understand that there is a very serious element to this ridiculous bollocks I am spewing?

Depending on what that can track to your IP number, and what you have on your hard drive. and whether you are uploading or downloading, and what country you are living in... Very bad things can happen.

It's not just fines, we are talking about jail time.

And it's not jail or fines, it's jail and fines.

But then Homosexuality is still punishable by death in a couple countries today.

Libya, The Sudan, Mauritania, Nigeria, Somaliland and Afghanistan (wait? What? Does the US Occupation help enforce those laws?).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory

Some laws are stupid.
 
Did they take out the credits too? Because that's another 3 minutes at the front, and three minutes at the back.

By the way, I am an immoral bad person who steals a lot of media and I'm fine with it, and if caught I am willing to pay them all back the billions I owe, at 10 bucks a week.

I'm not judging you, I'm welcoming you to a club.
GH has cut back on their opening credits. It takes very little time at all. Some YT uploaders include them, and others don't. The closing credits don't appear. Some uploaders include the previews for the next episode and some don't.

I'm currently half-way through Friday's episode (happened to miss it on TV because I had to do an errand in town).
 
Yeah, that lawsuit is crazy, as regards OLTL. Prospect Park owns the characters, but the actors' contracts are with ABC. So General Hospital gets the actors, and everyone has to pretend that most of the events dealing with when their OLTL characters were crossed over with GH never happened because nobody's allowed to say those characters' names or refer to what happened in their storylines in any but the most oblique way.

But on the plus side, it makes TOTAL SENSE that Todd Manning is Franco now. :rolleyes:
 
JMS is so easily trolled it would have been hilarious to send him an official looking mail from the studio offering Wang for a 'fair price'.

:lol:
 
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