Star Trek V reference in TNG
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"Captain, records indicate that on star date 8454.2, the Enterprise-A under the command of James Kirk experienced similar technical difficulties prior to its voyage to the center of the galaxy to find God."
"Mr. Data, those records were a fabrication. That never happened."
Kor
"Mr. Data, those records were a fabrication. That never happened."
Kor
Kidding aside, I actually can't recall the scene in question. I do remember Data referring to the PSI 2000 virus in The Naked Now, but that references an episode, not a film.
Possibly "Contagion", when the Enterprise was attacked by the Iconian computer virus.
I missed that reference despite watching TNG multiple times over the years. The only time I can recall anyone mentioning the Enterprise-A is in Relics when Scotty tells Picard he served on two Enterprises. Also he wanted a hologram of the bridge of the original Enterprise. No bloody A, B, C or D
TNG's third season premiere "Evolution" has Data saying that no starship has had a systemwide technological failure for 79 years. In the Oduka Chronology, they note that 2366 - 79 = 2287, the year they have STV taking place in.
So not a specific reference to STV, just a possible one.
So not a specific reference to STV, just a possible one.
...Might also refer to the Excelsior going down in ST3:TSfS when Scotty's little tapeworm is released in her innards.
Or then an unrelated incident. "Systemwide technological failure" sounds unlikely indeed, but "lots of things going wrong simultaneously" happens in Trek often enough. What would meet Data's criteria, exactly? Does even the Yamato/E-D incident actually meet the criteria, or is Data's favorite failure just an option he dismisses as too unlikely to explain this incident?
Timo Saloniemi
Or then an unrelated incident. "Systemwide technological failure" sounds unlikely indeed, but "lots of things going wrong simultaneously" happens in Trek often enough. What would meet Data's criteria, exactly? Does even the Yamato/E-D incident actually meet the criteria, or is Data's favorite failure just an option he dismisses as too unlikely to explain this incident?
Timo Saloniemi
I thought a bigger STV reference was a race of giant floating heads near the centre of the galaxy in "Nth Degree"
But the Enterprise-A never had a system-wide technological failure, at least from what we saw in STV. The ship was having problems but it was still functional. The Excelsior, on the other hand, was dead in space.
However, the dates you calculate seem to lend credence that it’s the Ent-A they were referring to.
That’s true, but I’m not sure that was really meant as a direct reference to STV.
always surprised the later TNG eps didn't do a sequel ep to Trek V or TMP - the way they mustve been scrapping around for ideas (Robin Hood/Holodeck goes wrong again/Worfs kid) ud think Piller or Branga would've gone 'hey why don't we bring back Sybok for an ep? or Decker? (its not like either actors would've turned it down)
I'm also not sure it was meant to be taken that they were *really* giant heads in that episode, so much as that was the output of whatever communications technology they were using.
I’m sure everyone wanted to forget STV ever existed. As for TMP, that was pretty much what TNG was based on.
If I ever get my hands on a Star Trek script I'm going to fill it with nothing but references to Sybok, Sha-Ka-Ree, Caitlin Darr and the Galactic Barrier. Let me share your pain, Star Trek V haters. And let me laugh maniacally in the sharing
Just because you've been hurt, doesn't mean you have to hurt others.
Music score and all. 
Luckily the episode works well enough on its own that it you can either take it as TNG partially explaining what the hell that thing was in TFF or just ignore the film anyway. It's just a side-note that only the most attentive fans would notice.
Well if it was a reference to TFF, all it really shows is that Picard's Enterprise is a piece of shit compared to Kirk's, since the former needed some special gadget hooked up to someone's head to get to the center of the galaxy, when the Ent-A got there under its own power in just an hour
Considering that the Romulans went into isolation for 70 years, and the Klingons never really made peace with the Federation until after the Ent-C was destroyed in 2344, I'd say that Nimbus III was a resounding failure.
But they're dead.
