Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x05 - "Charades"

[Tuskin38]

If the T’Pring-Spock break lasts until TOS, that would explain Chapel’s surprise reaction in TOS

 

[smalltabby]

Can't read through all of the 65 pages of messages here, so dunno if this thought has already been discussed at length. There were great fun moments in this episode, such as seeing Spock's interactions with others. The idea of behaviour being embedded in your dna kind of bugged me though. Spock behaves a certain way because he was raised on Vulcan and he chooses to follow the culture of his vulcan heritage more than the human. I'd have liked it more if the episode had Spock's vulcan dna erased (however that's possible) and he'd have stayed the same personality and realised that, even while looking different, he's still himself. I think it would tie in better with his character's struggle to accept his dual heritage and himself.

 

[Dukhat]

Just noticed that there were at least four other starships near the deuterium station before it blew up, with at least two of the Farragut configuration. And a new shuttle that went by too fast to be able to make anything out.

 

[Tuskin38]

Just noticed that there were at least four other starships near the deuterium station before it blew up, with at least two of the Farragut configuration. And a new shuttle that went by too fast to be able to make anything out.

I found a render of it online, but I can't find it now argh

 

[Mudd]

he'd have stayed the same personality and realised that, even while looking different, he's still himself.

He has no idea who he is.

Doesn't sound like an interesting story.

 

[smalltabby]

Doesn't sound like an interesting story.

I think there would be a lot of interest in seeing how Spock deals with realising that the things he thinks make him the perfect vulcan he aspires to be are actually things that make him himself! Of course in canon these kinds of realisations do hit him in TMP, but SNW seems to be speedrunning some of Spock's character arc a bit.

 

[Mudd]

SNW is sort of young Spock's living-away-at-college arc.

 

[the G-man]

First Wynonna Ryder and now Mia Kirshner. Never thought I'd reach a point where I'd have the hots for Spock's mom.

 

[the G-man]

It's kind of weird that Mia Kirshner (48 y/o) is playing Ethan Peck's Mother (37 y/o).
Not technically impossible, but still kind of odd given Ethan Peck's age.

I seem to recall reading that Spock is supposed to be 29 at this point. I also seem to recall that Amanda was in her mid 50s at the time of "Journey to Babel" so a 48 year old Amanda at this point isn't out of the question.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I seem to recall reading that Spock is supposed to be 29 at this point. I also seem to recall that Amanda was in her mid 50s at the time of "Journey to Babel" so a 48 year old Amanda at this point isn't out of the question.

So Ethan Peck is supposed to play a 29 y/o while being 37 y/o in actuality
His character is 8 years younger than the actor himself. Interesting!

 

[comsol]

So Ethan Peck is supposed to play a 29 y/o while being 37 y/o in actuality
His character is 8 years younger than the actor himself. Interesting!

Welcome to Hollywood.

 

[fireproof78]

Welcome to Hollywood.

David Ogden Stier was only 1 year older than Gary Burghoff yet their characters treated each other has having a much greater age difference, while Jaime Farr was ten years older that Burghoff, yet they were treated as roughly same age.

 

[cooleddie74]

Bea Arthur and Estelle Getty were only a few years apart in age but with makeup and Estelle's crotchety old mother performance she was able to play Dorothy's mom Sophia in The Golden Girls.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Angela Lansbury is three years older than Laurence Harvey, who plays her son in The Manchurian Candidate.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

on Blue Bloods, Len Cariou is only like 6 years older than Tom Selleck, who plays his son

 

[Tallguy]

Angela Lansbury is three years older than Laurence Harvey, who plays her son in The Manchurian Candidate.

on Blue Bloods, Len Cariou is only like 6 years older than Tom Selleck, who plays his son

We got a whole Sweeney Todd thing going here.

The idea of behaviour being embedded in your dna kind of bugged me though. Spock behaves a certain way because he was raised on Vulcan and he chooses to follow the culture of his vulcan heritage more than the human.

Star Trek tends to play fast and loose with what is and isn't physically Vulcanian. In much of TOS we were told that the reason that Spock struggles with emotion is because of his Human genetic heritage. Even as late as The Voyage Home we were told that the only reason Spock has emotions is because of Amanda. OTOH, what would Kolinahr be FOR if Vulcanians didn't have emotions?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Star Trek tends to play fast and loose with what is and isn't physically Vulcanian. In much of TOS we were told that the reason that Spock struggles with emotion is because of his Human genetic heritage. Even as late as The Voyage Home we were told that the only reason Spock has emotions is because of Amanda. OTOH, what would Kolinahr be FOR if Vulcanians didn't have emotions?

Vulcans are racist.

 

[Tallguy]

Vulcans are racist.

Absolutely. In every generation.

 

[cooleddie74]

Vulcans spent more than ninety years after First Contact treating humans like we're all Florida Man and want to rig moonshine stills to spacecraft to use as warp drives and it took a human rescuing the Kir'shara containing Surak's most important teachings to smack some sense into Vulcan society.

23rd and 24th century Vulcans are still racists and dicks but they're less so to humans.

 

[the G-man]

Vulcans spent more than ninety years after First Contact treating humans like we're all Florida Man and want to rig moonshine stills to spacecraft to use as warp drives and it took a human rescuing the Kir'shara containing Surak's most important teachings to smack some sense into Vulcan society.

23rd and 24th century Vulcans are still racists and dicks but they're less so to humans.

TFW that there is a certain "racism is logical" subtext there that comes through in every version of the Vulcans. I guess Roddenberry was kind of a man of his time, sadly.