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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 5x10 - "The New Next Generation"

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Ah, who cares?
The Fans, there are giant chunks of us "WHO CARES DEEPLY".

That's probably the only place the Bible is "definitive" .
That there is a "Bible", yes that concept is "definitive".

As to what it consists of will vary by whom you ask.

Why else has the Abrahamic Religions have splintered over time into so many fragmenting religions & sects.
 
There is a similar hullabaloo going on in Doctor Who fandom right now over the colorized version of The War Games...

..."confirming" that The War Chief and The Master are the same character. (Hint: it doesn't).
 
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The Fans, there are giant chunks of us "WHO CARES DEEPLY".
And the rest are non-fans?

Can I get my Trek-O-Meter activated yet? ;)


I care.

To a point.
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And the rest are non-fans?

Can I get my Trek-O-Meter activated yet? ;)
Ah, sarcasm, your favorite response.

Just lowercase fans, I guess. Line toers and the like. Untrue fans.
If you were a "UnTrue Fan", you wouldn't be participating in the Fandom.

You are a fan, just a different type of it.

One who seems to antagonize others who don't share their views on what matters to them.
 
Ah, sarcasm, your favorite response.
Sarcasm is my default response to what I consider ridiculous opinions.

Define "The Fans" for me, please. Because whenever I see the term it is not used as an inclusionary term, but an exclusionary term. "The Fans" care about all this stuff.

Well, basic logic tells me that if I don't care about this stuff then I must not be a fan.

Hence my sarcasm to these ideas.
 
I love continuity in Trek. Even when it's dodgy. But the dodginess means I can't invest too heavily in a writer in 2018 knowing what a writer in 1966 or 1987 put on screen and perfectly lining up the new material with both examples of the old. There's a delicate dance that often has to be done, but at the end of the day it's not a life or death dance.
 
Sarcasm is my default response to what I consider ridiculous opinions.

Define "The Fans" for me, please.
People who like said material.

Because whenever I see the term it is not used as an inclusionary term, but an exclusionary term. "The Fans" care about all this stuff.
"The Fans" aren't a homogenous group, we are always a fractured group.

The only thing we can agree on is that we like Star Trek.

Beyond that, everybody else is fragmented into their own sub culture / sects of Fandom within it.

Well, basic logic tells me that if I don't care about this stuff then I must not be a fan.
If that's your logic, than you do with it what you will.

I consider you a fan, just a different type of fan.

Hence my sarcasm to these ideas.
Your sarcasm comes off like disliking other fans for having different view points on "What Matters to THEM".

I love continuity in Trek. Even when it's dodgy. But the dodginess means I can't invest too heavily in a writer in 2018 knowing what a writer in 1966 or 1987 put on screen and perfectly lining up the new material with both examples of the old. There's a delicate dance that often has to be done, but at the end of the day it's not a life or death dance.
That's why I offer a compromise solution to fix all of it.

Multiple Prime TimeLines that ALL co-exist.

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Time-Travel shenanigans can mess things up, and there can be logical explanations for all of it w/o having to step on previous writing staffers toes.
 
Your sarcasm comes off like disliking other fans for having different view points on "What Matters to THEM".
Hardly.

I don't know you or who you are. I don't know your first name, your face or anything about you. I don't know your job, or your interests beyond Star Trek and I'm assuming whatever is your avatar and user name.


I cannot dislike people over a fictional franchise I've never met. I will disagree on opinions because none of this here is personal. it's the most impersonal form of communication because everyone is reading in their own emotions and taking offense at it, when its all just opinion.

There is no dislike here. There's not even a personal attack here. I just disagree.

If that's your logic, than you do with it what you will.

I consider you a fan, just a different type of fan.
Exactly. That's why I try to avoid "the fans." There's no consensus there.
 
Hardly.

I don't know you or who you are. I don't know your first name, your face or anything about you. I don't know your job, or your interests beyond Star Trek and I'm assuming whatever is your avatar and user name.


I cannot dislike people over a fictional franchise I've never met. I will disagree on opinions because none of this here is personal. it's the most impersonal form of communication because everyone is reading in their own emotions and taking offense at it, when its all just opinion.

There is no dislike here. There's not even a personal attack here. I just disagree.
Cool, we can agree to disagree on what is important to each person.

Exactly. That's why I try to avoid "the fans." There's no consensus there.
There is one part of "Fans" that we can ALL agree on.
We like "Star Trek" or ___ Franchise.
That's it.

Beyond that, there is so much variability that it becomes a matter of preference for each individual.
 
As an occasional viewer (like, ten episodes total), this was an okay half hour assuming that the technogibberish overload was part of the joke.
 
I liked the last episode. But I wish they had ordered 3 more episodes like FX did with Archer, which would have wrapped up the whole thing and aired as a one hour movie. It would have been better than adding 8 more minutes to the end and being done with it.
 
As an occasional viewer (like, ten episodes total), this was an okay half hour assuming that the technogibberish overload was part of the joke.
It was. I mean, it was typical post-TOS Trek with the technobabble and gibberish being spouted, but it was all part of the joke. So it played on the stereotypes about the franchise and helped deliver the overall narrative.
 
Great show. Sad to see it end.
I love our Lower Deckers and all of the hijinks they got into.
They threaded a thin line of honoring the canon while poking good-natured fun at it too.
They all had great stories, but I think Tendi is my favorite new character.
I hope they comeback in Star Trek: Lieutenant JG's

(I was hooked almost instantly when a drunk Mariner cut open Boimlers leg with a bat'leth in the first few minutes of episode one)
 
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