Definitely not "irrelevant". This episode is a call-back to a previous episode.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x07 - "A Mathematically Perfect Redemption"
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Definitely not "irrelevant". This episode is a call-back to a previous episode.
Given the "romance" in this episode, maybe they should have called her "Peanut Humper"
A sexo comp.
Is this episode too rude for family viewing?
Probably XD
There are some beeped out swear words and some let’s say unusual sexuality, but nothing that extreme imho.
Those entities weren't imprisoned simply because they were AI; they were there because they were actively dangerous and hostile.
By definition, it's not racist if it's justified.
Still, if you put deranged teenagers in jail with mass murderers you’re likely going to mess them up much more. Prison is supposed to be corrective, not a place to put your problems away.
In fact, the UFP is SUPPOSED to emphasize rehabilitation.
The incarceration should be there to prevent an individual/person from resuming their destructive intent (if there was any to start with) on others and society at large at least in the short term so they can be given the needed help.
My guess is that as Trek went on, the writers may have forgotten about this (and loads of other things) and don't really pay too much detail on this (and as you may have noticed, Trek writers sometimes take too many cues from real life which don't make sense for the type of society the UFP is supposed to be like).
Plus, LD is very crass and not to be taken too seriously (its a comedic take on Trek and even the creators said that not everything in LD should be taken at face value - such as various exaggerations in behavior and actions of various characters - so the live action bit of lower decks would likely retain some of its humour, but the officers in question wouldn't behave as 'childish' as we saw - that's just there for the cartoon aspect of the series and gag for the 'real audience').
Depends on the age and tolerance of your kids. I mean, some kid's cartoons these days are kind of raunchy.
I think the Daystrom Institute is more into studying them than correcting them. It doesn't seem to have made an effort to reprogram any of them anyway.
This. Just look at the canon characters, who are the touch points between the series. Riker's "give me warp in the factor of 5, 6, 7, 8", for instance. I think that their positions are canonical, but their personalities are less so.
It will be interesting to see how Mariner and Boimler do adapted to real life... hopefully, Boimler won't get his leg sliced off with a bat'leth this time.
The live action adaptations of Boimler and Mariner will likely take on a more serious portrayal with some of the comedy remaining internalized (as I just can't imagine thet type of childish behavior they exhibit all the time and on duty to be acceptable in Starfleet as a whole).
Mind you, Starfleet IS open minded and makes allowances for a wide range of behaviors, but there's a limit to how far someone can take jokes and comedy when on active duty... that's why various exaggerated behaviors will likely be left out if LD characters do get live action portrayal (but SOME of the comedy will probably be more 'subtle').
In effect, I expect of live action LD characters to behave a bit more 'professional' and 'SF like'.
Pretty much how I imagined they would adapt LD characters in live action.
Exaggerated bits are basically left out and will continue to appear in LD cartoon, but otherwise, in live action, Mariner would act a bit more... 'mature'.
which is peculiar, as they supposedly are considered living being.
which may make sense in the light of the above consideration: they try to correct people, not reprogram them.
We can already build non binary machines today (look up quantum computing), I’d expect those will be the norm by the 24th century.
Not necessarily.
Those AI's demonstrated they are capable of learning and changing their behavior by themselves.
As such, I think SF might consider manipulating their programming as an ethical violation (or an equivalent of lobotomy as it used to be done on organic beings).
Plus with some of the mishaps that occurred, SF would need a way to determine whether these units have actually changed their behavior or not...
Not quite.
SF seems to be able to analyse the source codes remotely.
Plus, if SF uses quantum computing, it would be able to easily force its way through any binary based encryption easily enough.
My guess is that in order to try and rehabilitate those 'evil AI's, SF might want to analyse their programming, and then use that as a guideline for rehabilitation via directed therapy.
I would imagine that actual reprogramming might only be considered as a last resort... and even then SF would need a way to determine the previous personality which is bad has disappeared completely and wouldn't come back.
For me, it started as a 9. Darkest intro over.
It then dropped a couple of points as I never cared for Peanut Brittle. But the attention to detail, complete with Valley Speak voice, had me rolling.
Rolling with it, it won me over to become a 10...
...Oh, then the pacing took some amphetamines and washed those down with a jaegerbomb. As much as the story and characters were winning me over big-time, the final 8 minutes' pacing just about shattered the whole thing.
Which is a shame, since the double double-cross was a great idea, largely well-handled with the freshness of the bird species, whose name also lent to a chuckle-inducing joke.
The prison for diabolically deranged AIs at the end had me rolling.
Also, here's some Valleyspeak exemplified - you can always count on someone in theQ Continuum, I mean the Zappa family, to do some quality entertainment:
Forgot to add the most important part: Ultimately, it's a 6 out of 10 because the pacing goes off the rails - everything else was pretty solid, even the bird doo-doo joke (I'll admit to laughing more times than I should... )
^^this
The scene almost wants to invoke fans' remembering Data and Yar, but it's impossible to do because it's a bird and a floating dues-ex maguffin-that's shaped like D&D dice. But I think you nailed it best in terms of raw body count (no pun intended). The heck is wrong with a bird-creature* (instead of a human) going at it with "the nozzle"? Live-action Trek has shown far more already; this scene was a nonstarter. And it's a cartoon that manages to balance clever ideas while not taking itself too seriously, while often having a good message -- a pretty awesome feat that continues to impress.
* a non-humanoid, which is refreshing to see to begin with, since Mr Anaphasic, Odo, EMH, Ilia, and the rest, all took human form. This LD episode is arguably a first as no humans were directly involved in finding the proverbial "on" switch.
It then dropped a couple of points as I never cared for Peanut Brittle. But the attention to detail, complete with Valley Speak voice, had me rolling.
Rolling with it, it won me over to become a 10...
...Oh, then the pacing took some amphetamines and washed those down with a jaegerbomb. As much as the story and characters were winning me over big-time, the final 8 minutes' pacing just about shattered the whole thing.
Which is a shame, since the double double-cross was a great idea, largely well-handled with the freshness of the bird species, whose name also lent to a chuckle-inducing joke.
The prison for diabolically deranged AIs at the end had me rolling.
Also, here's some Valleyspeak exemplified - you can always count on someone in the
Forgot to add the most important part: Ultimately, it's a 6 out of 10 because the pacing goes off the rails - everything else was pretty solid, even the bird doo-doo joke (I'll admit to laughing more times than I should... )
^^this
The scene almost wants to invoke fans' remembering Data and Yar, but it's impossible to do because it's a bird and a floating dues-ex maguffin-that's shaped like D&D dice. But I think you nailed it best in terms of raw body count (no pun intended). The heck is wrong with a bird-creature* (instead of a human) going at it with "the nozzle"? Live-action Trek has shown far more already; this scene was a nonstarter. And it's a cartoon that manages to balance clever ideas while not taking itself too seriously, while often having a good message -- a pretty awesome feat that continues to impress.
* a non-humanoid, which is refreshing to see to begin with, since Mr Anaphasic, Odo, EMH, Ilia, and the rest, all took human form. This LD episode is arguably a first as no humans were directly involved in finding the proverbial "on" switch.
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Or Marina regarding how she's not Troi in real life. It still impresses me to this day that actors have to point out to audiences that acting means portraying someone else. Even people who put some of their personality into the character - they're still doing a character and not themselves when all is said and done.
I love parts of it, but definitely hated the pacing. It definitely needed to be an hour long for it to have been virtually perfect. I want to love it, but I can't. Nor can I hate it. I'm also one of those inbetweeners... of course, I'm also ambidextrous...
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