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[guyute03]

Still wish Culber was the Doc, loved the character, love the actor. Never really going to agree with their choice to kill him off, he belonged on that ship, the actor belongs in Star Trek (and not as a damned ghost) and the crew of Discovery are worse off without him.

Sorry! Never going to be happy about it.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

So what is the general theory on Culber's return? Static Warp Bubble, Mycelial-style that *might* have actually been the afterlife?

 

[Lord Garth]

Since it's a resurrection, Culber is cloned from DNA found on Fiorina 161, except it also has DNA from a Xenomorph Queen, so he's now a half-Human/half-Xenomorph who still looks Human but bleeds acid and has super strength. Culber, it should be pointed out, is resurrected by Ensign Suder's great-grandfather who looks just like him but has a ponytail.

Over the course of the season, Culber becomes best friends with Ariam. Even though she's not an Android, she's a Cyborg. So, since it's the 23rd Century, and pre-Data, that's close enough.

At one point, Culber finds a lab with seven previous clones of him that he reluctantly has to burn down because of the horrible experiments being done to them by Section 31, who's been bought out by Wal-Mart... so technically Emperor Georgiou works for Wal-Mart. Like we all do in The Future.

 

[guyute03]

The Xenomorph, the only fictional monster that scares the living sh*t out of me. Anxiety inducing.

Am holding out hope, as ridiculous as it sounds, that Q shows up and just resurrects Culber.
Why not.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Since it's a resurrection, Culber is cloned from DNA found on Fiorina 161, except it also has DNA from a Xenomorph Queen, so he's now a half-Human/half-Xenomorph who still looks Human but bleeds acid and has super strength. Culber, it should be pointed out, is resurrected by Ensign Suder's great-grandfather who looks just like him but has a ponytail.

Over the course of the season, Culber becomes best friends with Ariam. Even though she's not an Android, she's a Cyborg. So, since it's the 23rd Century, and pre-Data, that's close enough.

At one point, Culber finds a lab with seven previous clones of him that he reluctantly has to burn down because of the horrible experiments being done to them by Section 31, who's been bought out by Wal-Mart... so technically Emperor Georgiou works for Wal-Mart. Like we all do in The Future.

I'd expect this type of thing on ENT

 

[Awesome Possum]

Still wish Culber was the Doc, loved the character, love the actor. Never really going to agree with their choice to kill him off, he belonged on that ship, the actor belongs in Star Trek (and not as a damned ghost) and the crew of Discovery are worse off without him.

Sorry! Never going to be happy about it.

It's awful that the first gay couple on Star Trek got caught in the "bury your gays" trope.

 

[Lord Garth]

I'd expect this type of thing on ENT

Or the film Alien: Resurrection!

 

[thribs]

Still wish Culber was the Doc, loved the character, love the actor. Never really going to agree with their choice to kill him off, he belonged on that ship, the actor belongs in Star Trek (and not as a damned ghost) and the crew of Discovery are worse off without him.

Sorry! Never going to be happy about it.

It was them trying to be like Game of Thrones by saying that no character is safe. The same goes for Lorca's character but I think 90% saw that coming anyway.

 

[Jadeb]

I’m not sure what’s worse: That they couldn’t be bothered to flesh out his character before killing him or that they barely mentioned him after his death. He’s basically Dr. Stamets’ Boyfriend, medical redshirt.

If this was their plan for Trek’s first same-sex couple, as they’d have us believe, it was a terrible plan.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

In addition to everything I hated about Culber's death (everything, I hated everything about it), it was also super annoying to not know of anything that happened afterwards. Is he in the morgue? Was there a memorial and a space burial? Was he buried on Earth? Not knowing any of this makes it difficult to make any kind of fun theory. Like, if his SOUL or whatever is in the mycelial network...why is it in there? There didn't seem to be any reason why his ghost would appear if not a figment of Stamet's imagination if he was just killed in sickbay. Did a shrooming Stamets stick him in the S-Drive and spin it up to suck out what was left of Culber's soul? Is he coming back without a body? Was his spaced body picked up and going to be reconstituted with his mushroom soul? Are they going to have a memorial for him and find his tube mysteriously empty? Why did they kill him at all?

 

[Tuskin38]

No one on the show seems to have had a problem with it, not even the actors.

Probably because they knew he'd be coming back in some way.

 

[Lord Garth]

It was them trying to be like Game of Thrones by saying that no character is safe. The same goes for Lorca's character but I think 90% saw that coming anyway.

Breaking Bad, Oz, lots of horror movies, if not most... not that I was too thrilled about them killing off Culber either when it happened, but -- NOT talking about Culber but more in general -- I'm glad they're not just killing off Nameless Redshirts anymore or characters whose actors want out of their contracts.

 

[XCV330]

Dr Culber was the one character who consistently reflected the values of Starfleet and the Federation over and over, apart from maybe Tilly and Captain Georgiou (who we never really got to know). Culber was also the only one on the ship who stood up to Lorca. I hope they do find a way to bring him back. He was a really good character.

 

[F. King Daniel]

It's awful that the first gay couple on Star Trek got caught in the "bury your gays" trope.

*Hikaru and Ben frown from Yorktown*

 

[F. King Daniel]

I’m not sure what’s worse: That they couldn’t be bothered to flesh out his character before killing him or that they barely mentioned him after his death. He’s basically Dr. Stamets’ Boyfriend, medical redshirt.

If this was their plan for Trek’s first same-sex couple, as they’d have us believe, it was a terrible plan.

In fairness, very few characters were fleshed out at all aside from Staments, Burnham, Ash and Lorca.

 

[Timo]

...And there were very few episodes after Culber's death. They didn't much mention the all-important Klingon cloak in the later episodes, either. Both might warrant mention in the second season, for being factually important; OTOH, the heroes may remain too busy to worry about mere matters of life and death. After all, Kirk usually did.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Jadeb]

...And there were very few episodes after Culber's death. They didn't much mention the all-important Klingon cloak in the later episodes, either. Both might warrant mention in the second season, for being factually important; OTOH, the heroes may remain too busy to worry about mere matters of life and death. After all, Kirk usually did.

Timo Saloniemi

There were four episodes after that — more than a quarter of the season.

 

[Timo]

A short season, with short episodes. What counts is the absolute number. And out of the mere four, two were spent struggling in the Mirror Universe (actually with several mentions of the murder and its effects on the crew), while the next was spent struggling against the Klingons in a manner that heavily tasked Stamets specifically. I'd say there were good excuses for not dwelling on this particular subject, out of the many subjects at hand.

Whether there will be more mention in the upcoming episodes isn't really in question, what with Culber confirmed as returning in some so far unknown form.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Jadeb]

A short season, with short episodes. What counts is the absolute number. And out of the mere four, two were spent struggling in the Mirror Universe (actually with several mentions of the murder and its effects on the crew), while the next was spent struggling against the Klingons in a manner that heavily tasked Stamets specifically. I'd say there were good excuses for not dwelling on this particular subject, out of the many subjects at hand.

They made time for Burnham to lecture us on Starfleet values after installing a terrorist as dictator of the Klingon empire, so you could say I question the writers' storytelling priorities.