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Refit/1701-A - 3D Model, Full Interior
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A bit more work on the internal structure. I'm planning to have the head of the computer core terminate in the centre of the bridge there below the helm controls, with the underside of the bridge floor being largely exposed beams and full of wires/conduits etc for ease of maintenance from below.
I've also managed to increase the bridge diameter to 35.43ft by lowering the height of the Turbolift door to just under 7ft, which I think is plenty high enough.
I've also managed to increase the bridge diameter to 35.43ft by lowering the height of the Turbolift door to just under 7ft, which I think is plenty high enough.
Oh NO!!! Don't tell me Disney has acquired the Trek franchise, too...
There are hidden Mickeys everywhere!
Thanks! Means a lot coming from you. I was greatly inspired by your work, and this render in particular:
http://www.fightingstarships.info/files/2010/09/s1_cutaway_v002-output.png
I love that image, I'm an engineer at heart and I want to know how it all works and fits together.
I know you're going off of existing blueprints, etc, but if I may be so bold, you could drop the bridge down into the floor below to get the extra diameter you need to fit everything.
Yep, already bitten the bullet on that one. The lower part of the bridge is currently 1.3ft into the deck below, and I'm happy with that as long as there's ample head room in the 'computer room' below to move around without banging your head on beams and things. Health and Safety in the workplace
Thank you Dan I wish I could give you advice on using Sketchup but I'm not very good at that program. Definitely follow the advice others have given for best utilizing your memory so you can keep working on it. I'm looking forward to see where you go with it!
I wish I could give you advice on using Sketchup but I'm not very good at that program. Definitely follow the advice others have given for best utilizing your memory so you can keep working on it. I'm looking forward to see where you go with it!
I haven't been able to get stuck into this much this week due to work commitments, but here's the latest progress on sketching in Deck 4:
I'm planning to have 3 phaser control rooms beneath the turrets you see on the outer hull, which themselves will extend down into support hardware etc. I also plan to route conduits and such all the way back to the reactors and computer core.
Is there any documentation or speculation as to where the actual phaser power comes from? Would it be the intermix? I'm assuming they'd still work with the saucer separated.
Here's what the overall build looks like so far with all the layers enabled:
I'm planning to have 3 phaser control rooms beneath the turrets you see on the outer hull, which themselves will extend down into support hardware etc. I also plan to route conduits and such all the way back to the reactors and computer core.
Is there any documentation or speculation as to where the actual phaser power comes from? Would it be the intermix? I'm assuming they'd still work with the saucer separated.
Here's what the overall build looks like so far with all the layers enabled:
How big do you plan to print that?
I've been wondering that myself... I need to fight the urge to make it as big as physically possible, which then comes with the additional challenge of where to put it when it's finished :P
Realistically I think it will about 4-5ft long, which is big enough for a decent amount of detail without being so huge that it falls apart or takes up my entire lounge.
Just need to make sure that the girders and things are strong enough to support the structure on the print, so it can't be too dainty.
Do you have any idea how much that would cost? I once designed something that was just a flat frame about 12x12 and it ended up pricing out at 400 on shapeways.
Well, the real question is how much filament I'll be burning through. You can get a 1kg reel of ABS for £25 in the UK.
I've been trying to visualise what the phaser control hardware looks like beneath the turrets on the outer hull. Here's what I've come up with so far:
The red conduit is for the power, which I'll connect up to the intermix somewhere. I'll also have another conduit running to the computer core for the targeting/sensors etc.
The red conduit is for the power, which I'll connect up to the intermix somewhere. I'll also have another conduit running to the computer core for the targeting/sensors etc.
I've been trying to visualise what the phaser control hardware looks like beneath the turrets on the outer hull. Here's what I've come up with so far:
The red conduit is for the power, which I'll connect up to the intermix somewhere. I'll also have another conduit running to the computer core for the targeting/sensors etc.
While the red conduit looks cool, I doubt that they would route power that way. Most likely, they would have individual runs going up through the structure, into each of the phaser banks.
Hi Dan,
My thinking extrapolated from the series and the movies for the phasers were that:
1. The phaser energy is stored in 4 phaser energy banks
2. Each bank belonged to a phaser control room which was manned and could independently act.
3. Each phaser bank could pump their energy to any phaser emitter available to fire on a target.
4. All the phaser emitters and banks were connected to each other.
5. In the TOS series, the four phaser banks could be charged up from any source and all four could take the entire ship's output (actually more, since they burned out the warp drive).
6. In TMP, they put something in between the energy banks and the warp drive to boost power but failure of warp drive meant loss of phaser power.
7. In TWOK, they altered that so they could bypass the warp drive in case it wasn't available and fire them from auxiliary or battery power.
8. Phaser coolant
You could take a look at the episode "Balance of Terror" and the phaser control room shown there to perhaps give you a starting place for what the room might have looked like before the redesign in TMP.
My thinking extrapolated from the series and the movies for the phasers were that:
1. The phaser energy is stored in 4 phaser energy banks
2. Each bank belonged to a phaser control room which was manned and could independently act.
3. Each phaser bank could pump their energy to any phaser emitter available to fire on a target.
4. All the phaser emitters and banks were connected to each other.
5. In the TOS series, the four phaser banks could be charged up from any source and all four could take the entire ship's output (actually more, since they burned out the warp drive).
6. In TMP, they put something in between the energy banks and the warp drive to boost power but failure of warp drive meant loss of phaser power.
7. In TWOK, they altered that so they could bypass the warp drive in case it wasn't available and fire them from auxiliary or battery power.
8. Phaser coolant
You could take a look at the episode "Balance of Terror" and the phaser control room shown there to perhaps give you a starting place for what the room might have looked like before the redesign in TMP.
I'm torn on this, mainly because of the amount of space available within and between decks and also because of the large unused areas around the outside of the saucer. It would make sense that they contained hardware such as the batteries, phaser banks and life support systems etc, and it makes it easy from a design perspective to loop the power feed through it all.
What I don't like so much is that all the important vulnerable stuff is on the outside of the hull and all the non-important stuff (crew quarters) is deeper inside. If I were designing a starship from scratch I'd have all the vulnerable hardware as deep within the hull as possible to protect it from torpedo hits etc.
Hi Dan,
My thinking extrapolated from the series and the movies for the phasers were that:
1. The phaser energy is stored in 4 phaser energy banks
2. Each bank belonged to a phaser control room which was manned and could independently act.
3. Each phaser bank could pump their energy to any phaser emitter available to fire on a target.
4. All the phaser emitters and banks were connected to each other.
5. In the TOS series, the four phaser banks could be charged up from any source and all four could take the entire ship's output (actually more, since they burned out the warp drive).
6. In TMP, they put something in between the energy banks and the warp drive to boost power but failure of warp drive meant loss of phaser power.
7. In TWOK, they altered that so they could bypass the warp drive in case it wasn't available and fire them from auxiliary or battery power.
8. Phaser coolant
You could take a look at the episode "Balance of Terror" and the phaser control room shown there to perhaps give you a starting place for what the room might have looked like before the redesign in TMP.
Thanks, some really good points there and I'll watch that episode later!
1) I think it would work if there were 2 phaser banks on deck #4, with the other 2 on deck #9, located exactly between the emitters on each deck.
2) I could actually have the main phaser control rooms adjacent to the phaser banks, with smaller rooms at each emitter location just for maintenance's sake. Though looking on Memory Alpha they should be on Deck #5.
5,6,7) Yeah, the way I am picturing this at the moment is that there's a major series of conduits coming out of the impulse engineering area and then up/down and around the saucer from there. The Turboshaft that goes to and from the Dorsal could be a great place to route cables and things. I guess I see the impulse engineering section being used for more than just the impulse engines, catering for the entire saucer's engineering requirements.
8) Hmm coolant... I think a series of pipes and gas tanks are needed there.
I'm going to colour code the conduits depending on their function, somewhat like this: (although no idea where this is supposed to fit on the ship...)
I'm going to colour code the conduits depending on their function, somewhat like this: (although no idea where this is supposed to fit on the ship...)
I always had the impression those Jefferies Tubes were supposed to be in the bottom-most deck of the engineering hull.
The basic saucer structure is coming along nicely, just need to flesh it out a bit and add some lateral support. I'll then have a crack at the dorsal and torpedo room(s).
I think I'll go ahead and get the general shape and layout done before I make a real effort on the detail. I have a feeling I'll need to make a fair number of changes before everything fits properly.
Edit... beauty shot :P
I think I'll go ahead and get the general shape and layout done before I make a real effort on the detail. I have a feeling I'll need to make a fair number of changes before everything fits properly.
Edit... beauty shot :P
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