Pike era Enterprise....
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I won't be forgetting that jacket.
Where the heck did that come from? Did you 'Photoshop it' or is that an original photo???
While I don't have an original laser under my bed, I do keep an eye on 'laser spotters' (its a bit more difficult than train-spotting I here). Does this match your memory?
This is someone else's image from TrekPropZonecom . I thought I could find the thread quickly today, but I'm having no luck, so I'm looking in the wrong place or its been pruned. Anyway, it appears to be an original WNMHGB Laser, though now some people are apparently claiming its a forgery by Mark English. I forgot to bring along the images of some of the Cage communicator replicas. Pure Trek pr0n, much to my amazement.
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Thomas, thanks for stopping in and sharing that. Your work is much appreciated.
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Warped9,
We're working largely along parallel lines here, as at the moment the pilots and earlier are my primary interest.
I did that in Photoshop... just curious to see what it would look like.
Well, as I recall there were four props made.... and all of them were slightly different (including non-functioning versions). One of the four (a functioning model) was modified for the second pilot (and I believe that one was sold at auction for around $5,300 back in the 1990's).
Mine had single hashing on the grip (the cross-hashing was only done to the WNMHGB prop), had no plug on the forward end (but had a hole in it for a screw to hold on the front end). It was solid, so the trigger didn't move and it had the small box opening on the top for the sight (at least one of the props didn't have that opening). Also, there weren't any really sharp edges on the body (specially the back), they were all rounded off.
While narrowing slightly, the front actually looked more like the B-B section, and the raised part on the top wasn't so dramatically pronounced on mine. Needless to say, it also didn't have the wheel things on the back or the type-writer keys on the side. It doesn't show it on those images, but there were two rectangular protrusions on the other side about midway along the body.
The top view looks pretty good (but the square for the sight is too big), and the areas where it notes "curved" didn't really exist on mine. The thickness of the grip looks right (very wide when holding it), but the base on mine was more squared off than the one in the photo.
Like I said, they were all different from each other, and the functioning version would have been built quite differently from a non-functioning one.
Please feel free to post it on the Origins board, or drop me an email.
I don't want to start a thread dedicated to the show right now. When we're closer to releasing the first chapter, then that will be the time to start promoting it heavily.
David, it is very possible you simply had a resin casting of a home made prop. Prop reproductions and forgeries have been around for years. Do you have pics? Sorry, I only skimmed thru and didn't notice if you said you had any or not.
I don't want to start a thread dedicated to the show right now. When we're closer to releasing the first chapter, then that will be the time to start promoting it heavily.
David, it is very possible you simply had a resin casting of a home made prop. Prop reproductions and forgeries have been around for years. Do you have pics? Sorry, I only skimmed thru and didn't notice if you said you had any or not.
No... no pics.
Could have been a knock-off... I'd sleep better if it was. If I was to match what it looked like to one on screen, it would have been the one carried by Colt (but with an opening for the sight, her's didn't have that).
If it was or wasn't... water under the bridge now as it has been lost for nearly 12 years.
Could have been a knock-off... I'd sleep better if it was. If I was to match what it looked like to one on screen, it would have been the one carried by Colt (but with an opening for the sight, her's didn't have that).
If it was or wasn't... water under the bridge now as it has been lost for nearly 12 years.
Just for you Warped9. But don't say I didn't warn you...
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2698949&postcount=7
Oh, and: Lithium Amplified Stimulated Emission of Radiation (LASER)
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2698949&postcount=7
Oh, and: Lithium Amplified Stimulated Emission of Radiation (LASER)
Whoa! I'll spend the whole afternoon just studying these. Thanks much.
Even so I still rather like the idea that the 33 incher represents the Constitution and and the 11 footer reflecting design changes that resulted in the Enterprise.
Very cool and thank you again.
I like that idea too, Warped9. I would keep going with it. I think it's better than the alternative. I think the TOS ship is unique because while there was an intended way the ship was supposed to look, neither model looked exactly like it so we're left with (pre-remastered) a 33" model and 11 foot model that look nothing alike interspersed with one another, plus stock footage of the 11 footer with completely different details being used.
I think your approach is the most logical.
I think your approach is the most logical.
Your very welcome. And the real credit goes to Dave Shaw and Alan Sinclair. I am a mere fiddler with their instruments.
I didn't add in the "Pilot" detailing (which is needed), and frankly I spent a limited amount of time on this so there are definitely some rough edges. The idea is retro-converting the 11' model into something very similar to the 33" model without actually having to swap out or rebuild major structural components. Swapping out the Interconnecting Dorsal and adding a couple of decks to existing ones in the saucer gets you most of the way to the 33" version. That and some bondo. That's the detail that actually catches ones eye, IMHO
Because the secondary hulls are different sizes I couldn't justify doing more than the hanger bay recession, otherwise you're talking about either completely replacing the secondary hull or replacing all the external portions of it to gain not much in terms of space. You could make the periphery of the saucer match, assuming Dave Shaw's modular design is correct, but you lose a lot of functionality for not much of a visual difference. That's my angle, a difference that makes almost no difference, isn't really much of a difference. After doing, and thinking about it, I actually am beginning to like the idea of this particular "hybrid" version being plausible as the "initial" design (not that I'm not open to suggestions, and obviously it still needs some adjustments) . But it monkey wrenches a lot of other Treknologists.
I can live with the idea that the Constitution, as the prototype ship, would have some significant differences with the regular production version, as typified by the Enterprise, and the three-footer is as good an example as any, I suppose.
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