It was 'Q' switching Kirk and Picard, seeing how each would react to a situation from a different era.
The crew would continue to see them as Kirk and Picard, even though they weren't.
Enterprise-A Questions
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It was 'Q' switching Kirk and Picard, seeing how each would react to a situation from a different era.
The crew would continue to see them as Kirk and Picard, even though they weren't.
I would like to point out that most people that buy a second hand car often say 'I bought a new car'.
It's a new ship to him.
Although we hear Scotty say something to the effect that this new build is of poorer quality than older builds...
SCOTT: All I can say is they don't make 'em like they used to.
I just had a customer say the same thing today. "It's a used car, but it's new to me."
I had a theory a while back that the 1701-A was actually the original Enterprise.
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Here it is…
The Enterprise-A is actually the original Enterprise.
The Enterprise was set to be refit, but Starfleet also started work on the first new Enterprise-subclass ship. As both neared the end, it became clear that the Enterpriserefit wouldn't be ready to launch the class, so the two were flipped. The new build would become the Enterprise NCC-1701, while the Enterprise would be renamed to whatever name that new ship would've been.
However, the refit Enterprise would become a testbed for new technologies over the intervening years. Never actually having an official name though probably having an NX designation.
Then, when Starfleet gets caught over a barrel, not really having a ship to give Kirk and his band of rebels, they pulled the actual refit 1701 off of the testing grounds and gave it to Kirk, to become the 1701-A. Explaining why it was a mess. It was a testbed with tons of conflicting technologies that were never intended to work together over the long term.
So when the seemingly young Enterprise-A is retired at the end of the Battle at Khitomer, it is because it isn't young at all...
OMG, I did that! I was one of the crew members who got to beam down to the planet and beat the Klingons with the huge rocks (obviously not in that particular video). No idea where the VHS tape is. I should digitize it before it's gone.
The ending to STIV should have been what happened in the finale of S3 Picard. The travel pod arcs over the primary hull of the Excelsior to show it's been re-christened as the Enterprise. Ever since they introduced the Excelsior in the same film that they destroy the Enterprise, it seemed a no-brainer that's what was going to happen. I remember watching the movie on opening day, excitedly hoping for that. I've been sorely disappointed since 1986!
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I thought you were going to say that Starfleet found the remains of the Enterprise among the remains of Genesis and rebuilt it. Or even better, that the Genesis effect resurrected it
I thought you were going to say that Starfleet found the remains of the Enterprise among the remains of Genesis and rebuilt it.
When I was a wee lad, I tried that route and there was simply no believable way to save it. Same way I felt about the Enterprise-D after Generations.
No I don’t consider Geordi’s Frankenstein ship the D.
Funny. Since 2002, I’ve been wondering if we’d ever see a new Enterprise. By 2023, I was happier to see an old Enterprise saucer attached to some other ship’s secondary hull rather than the two newer Enterprises they showed, which were massively disappointing.
I disagree. It was incredibly ridiculous to rename an old and (and IMO, incredibly ugly) starship "Enterprise" to set up a series that was clearly never going to happen. It's also idiotic that the Enterprise-E was written off as a joke and that the Enterprise-F was decommissioned for no logical reason. I hate the Sovereign Class (and most of Eaves' designs) but I still thought it was cheap to treat an Enterprise that way. That was one of the many reasons I don't treat Picard as canon Star Trek, along with the rest of Kurtz Dreck.
That was the original plan (although it is unclear if the Excelsior was going to be renamed the Enterprise.) But fans reacted so negatively towards the ship that the plan was changed. In retrospect, what eventually happened was far better than the crew getting the Excelsior.
Not to mention that the name ‘Titan’ was now deemed not as important as the Enterprise name, despite everything the ship did under that name.
Agreed.
Most of Eaves’s early designs I liked. The Sovereign was okay, along with his Jem’Hadar ships. It was only after it became clear that most of his later designs were derivative and that little of his design style matched any specific time period did I start to dislike his work.
So its five years of missions didn’t mean squat, nor the death of its captain, because Starfleet wanted to kiss Picard’s ass?
Not to mention the whole ambiguousness of ‘is it a new ship or is it a refit of the old ship’ nonsense that they couldn’t ever seem to get straight.
Not to mention the whole ambiguousness of ‘is it a new ship or is it a refit of the old ship’ nonsense that they couldn’t ever seem to get straight.
