Odyssey Secret Mission???

[bionicbob]

Since season 5 has not aired here in Canada yet, I had to wait for the DVD release last week and I have now finally caught up of the series.

Too bad Scy-Fy cancelled Atlantis as I found Season Five to be excellent and the series still had lots of life to it. Would have been interesting to see where the series would have went with Atlantis on Earth (at least temporarily), here's hoping the Atlantis movie stays greenlit!

Anyway, just curious what everyone thought of the throw-away line of "Odyssey being on a secret mission". Do you think it is reference/set-up for UNIVERSE? I listened to the commentary, but it did not reveal anything.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Since season 5 has not aired here in Canada yet, I had to wait for the DVD release last week and I have now finally caught up of the series.

Too bad Scy-Fy cancelled Atlantis as I found Season Five to be excellent and the series still had lots of life to it. Would have been interesting to see where the series would have went with Atlantis on Earth (at least temporarily), here's hoping the Atlantis movie stays greenlit!

Anyway, just curious what everyone thought of the throw-away line of "Odyssey being on a secret mission". Do you think it is reference/set-up for UNIVERSE? I listened to the commentary, but it did not reveal anything.

That or the next SG-1 movie.

 

[Hermiod]

It was a dumb, throwaway line to explain why their best ship with its ZPM wasn't around.

Odyssey was inconvenient to the plot, sort of like The Sentry having an agoraphobia attack the same day the Hulk starts smashing up New York.

 

[Kirby]

If it's not related to Universe, then it was a really stupid, throwaway line. If they really wanted to not deal with Odyssey and the ZPM, then all they had to say was something like "The Odyssey is on it's way, but it's in XXX galaxy and won't make it back for another 2 weeks even at maximum speed."

 

[Jax]

I thought the line was going to be related to Universe. Anyway SCI FI were wrong not to order some sort of a 6th season from MGM...13 episodes would of done and still allowed room am sure for DVD movies after.

 

[DWF]

I thought the line was going to be related to Universe. Anyway SCI FI were wrong not to order some sort of a 6th season from MGM...13 episodes would of done and still allowed room am sure for DVD movies after.

It was all or nothing, they could either make SG1 movies and the series or Atlantis and SG1 movies. So in the end the had to cancel Atlantis to make room for the new series.

 

[bigdaddy]

Yeah Sci-fi wasn't the problem. MGM wants 100 Stargate shows-movies going on at once and that just doesn't work.

 

[Hermiod]

If it's not related to Universe, then it was a really stupid, throwaway line. If they really wanted to not deal with Odyssey and the ZPM, then all they had to say was something like "The Odyssey is on it's way, but it's in XXX galaxy and won't make it back for another 2 weeks even at maximum speed."

Yes, but I'm sure, to them, "secret mission" sounds cooler.

 

[Broccoli]

Maybe it is tied into what was Atlantis Season 6 opener and now the Stargate Atlantis movie? I dunno...just throwing it out there.

EDIT: I just re-watched "Enemy at the Gate". They had to have been planning something with the Odyssey and her secret mission. If they it was inconvenient for the plot, then why not have it be p'wned with the other Earth ships? Or why introduce another ship (the Sun Tzu), albeit by name only, when the Odyssey could have filled that void?

 

[Hermiod]

Maybe it is tied into what was Atlantis Season 6 opener and now the Stargate Atlantis movie? I dunno...just throwing it out there.

EDIT: I just re-watched "Enemy at the Gate". They had to have been planning something with the Odyssey and her secret mission. If they it was inconvenient for the plot, then why not have it be p'wned with the other Earth ships? Or why introduce another ship (the Sun Tzu), albeit by name only, when the Odyssey could have filled that void?

There's a big difference between Odyssey and Daedalus, Sun Tzu and Apollo (and the still under construction General Hammond) - Odyssey has a ZPM. Am I the only one who thinks the ship should be called George Hammond though ? It's not the USS President Lincoln after all.

With its ZPM, Odyssey was capable of destroying multiple Ori ships.

I don't disagree that the line could have been a holdover from "Enemy at the Gate" previously being a cliffhanger prior to the show being cancelled.

As it stands, though, the line still reminds me of The Sentry being conveniently stuck in his house having a panic attack right up until the final issue of World War Hulk when he was the last hope.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Maybe it is tied into what was Atlantis Season 6 opener and now the Stargate Atlantis movie? I dunno...just throwing it out there.

EDIT: I just re-watched "Enemy at the Gate". They had to have been planning something with the Odyssey and her secret mission. If they it was inconvenient for the plot, then why not have it be p'wned with the other Earth ships? Or why introduce another ship (the Sun Tzu), albeit by name only, when the Odyssey could have filled that void?

There's a big difference between Odyssey and Daedalus, Sun Tzu and Apollo (and the still under construction General Hammond) - Odyssey has a ZPM. Am I the only one who thinks the ship should be called George Hammond though ? It's not the USS President Lincoln after all.

With its ZPM, Odyssey was capable of destroying multiple Ori ships.

I don't disagree that the line could have been a holdover from "Enemy at the Gate" previously being a cliffhanger prior to the show being cancelled.

As it stands, though, the line still reminds me of The Sentry being conveniently stuck in his house having a panic attack right up until the final issue of World War Hulk when he was the last hope.

Or it could be for that focusing on Jack third SG-1 movie that I've heard people talking about since SG-1 tends to USE the Odyssey when they need a ship since the Prometheus blew up.

 

[Hermiod]

Or it could be for that focusing on Jack third SG-1 movie that I've heard people talking about since SG-1 tends to USE the Odyssey when they need a ship since the Prometheus blew up.

For me, that remains in a very distant third place behind the ship being inconvenient to the plot and Broccoli's suggestion that it might have been tied in to some version of the episode that existed before the show was canceled.

This is very much akin to Heroes where characters who could easily solve a problem suddenly lose the powers they would use to do so on a very frequent basis (pretty much every five episodes or so).

 

[Hartzilla2007]

From the new Stargate Universe Trailer it looks like the Odyssey or at least another earth ship is used to transport people to the base that the Universe characters leave for the Destiny in the pilot so if the pilot of universe takes place about the same time as Enemy At The Gates that could be the secret mission the Odyssey is on.

 

[Kirby]

^^^ According to Joe Mallozzi's blog, the pilot to Universe takes place just days after Enemy at the Gate, so most likely it is the Odyssey

 

[DWF]

^^^ According to Joe Mallozzi's blog, the pilot to Universe takes place just days after Enemy at the Gate, so most likely it is the Odyssey

No it's not.

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/...-off-destiny-new-stargate-universe-footage/2/

 

[Broccoli]

^ The link didn't say one way or another when the episode takes place.

Unless I am missing something.

 

[David cgc]

It says Carter appears as CO of the George Hammond, which pretty well says that's the one we see in the trailer, and also that it's more than a little while since EatG, since the ship is done.

 

[Broccoli]

It says Carter appears as CO of the George Hammond, which pretty well says that's the one we see in the trailer, and also that it's more than a little while since EatG, since the ship is done.

Well, in fairness, we don't know when the ship was completed. The only info we have on the George Hammond is this:

SHEPPARD: So, you're in command here, huh?

CARTER: Only until General Landry gets back. He's heading up a task force in Washington. My next position is to take command of our new Daedalus-class ship.

SHEPPARD: The Phoenix?

CARTER: Actually, we're renaming it the "General Hammond".

Presumably, the task force was in response to the Wraith attack. With the Wraith attack finished, Landry returned to the SGC and Carter went to her ship.

So, nope. We don't know one way or another.