Yeah, they should probably give the Mirror Universe a rest for a while. Let us miss it a bit.
"Mirror, Mirror" Thoughts
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I already do. One of the best episodes of TOS, very creative, one of the most interesting aspects of DSC. Bring back, please.
Now admittedly I'm WAY behind on DSC (nothing beyond S2), but isn't
Mirror Georgiou
Yes, but there is an excellent episode exploring her.
Also, I love the aesthetic of the MU
Also, I love the aesthetic of the MU
So do I. The Mirror Universe uniforms we saw in DSC S1 were really sharp. And the TOS designs are classic, of course.
I may be misremembering, but I think the answer is "no".
Spoiler tags aren't needed, but since we started there I'll respect that.
If I recall correctly, the Guardian of Forever said he was sending her "back in time to when the universes were aligned" or something like that. Assuming that's true, by the 32nd century (our "now") Georgiou would be long dead.
Maybe I missed something though....
I think it's been covered before but here goes. Maybe the Tantalus Field device was taken from the Tantalus colony run by Dr.Tristan Adams in Dagger of The Mind by the evil Kirk and smuggled back onto the ship whilst his crew were unaware plus maybe Adams was quite sane and a good guy in the Mirror universe and Van Gelder really was a nut job in that reality? 
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MARLENA: Of course not. It made you captain. How many enemies have you simply wiped out of existence by the touch of a button? Fifty? A hundred? Now, I always thought that was funny, The great, powerful Captain Kirk who owes everything to some unknown alien scientist and a plundered laboratory.
A plundered laboratory fits the Tantalus colony, but unknown alien scientist doesn't sound like either Dr. Adams and Dr. Van Gelder...but I can see some variation on how the Mirror universe could harshly (instead of humanely) treat the mentally ill. The mentally ill check in, <poof>, and they never check out.
I think it's been covered before but here goes. Maybe the Tantalus Field device was taken from the Tantalus colony run by Dr.Tristan Adams in Dagger of The Mind by the evil Kirk and smuggled back onto the ship whilst his crew were unaware plus maybe Adams was quite sane and a good guy in the Mirror universe and Van Gelder really was a nut job in that reality?
JB
I don't think so. There are places in New York State called Rome, Warsaw, and Boston. There are more than a dozen towns in the world called London. I'm pretty sure there can be more than one Tantalus.
Maybe, Zap, I just gave it a shot that's all! 
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Margaret Wander Bonanno did something very similar to that in her story "The Greater Good" in the 2009 Mirror Universe collection Shards and Shadows.
Not necessarily. A lot of folks seem to assume that everything in the Mirror Universe is reversed, but most MU episodes show that that is not the case. The Halkans are the same extreme pacifists in the MU that they are in the Prime Universe. They're just more haggard because of the evil actions of the Empire. And the DS9 Mirror Universe episodes show that the differences in the Klingons, Cardassians, and Bajorans are mainly in reaction to the Empire and Spock's revolution....plus maybe Adams was quite sane and a good guy in the Mirror universe and Van Gelder really was a nut job in that reality?
That's how I feel. "Mirror, Mirror" is a "what if the Federation was actually an evil empire?" story. Not a "what if everything was opposite?" scenario. Just one thing is changed which results in everything else adapting to that change. The original episode was focused only on the Enterprise, but later shows did a fairly okay job showing how everyone reacted to that. Other than going to that well too often because they thought it was fun...
The mirror in question is the one held up to the crew, forcing them to confront their capacity for evil.
Exactly. Part of the reason Kirk adapts so well to the Mirror Universe is that he'd already faced his dark side in "The Enemy Within." But even he is repulsed by what he finds in the MU. Notice how quickly he shuts off the reading of the ship's log when he realizes that his counterpart is responsible for thousands (possibly BILLIONS) of deaths.
That second action's a little too close to Kodos for his liking, perhaps...
It's an interesting thought experiment, one that I personally completely enjoy. The comics, books and all take the MU in different directions and I think it's done quite well usually.
Interesting thought!
In my mind those actions are twisted versions of Kirk's early missions on the Enterprise. Prime Kirk may very well have aided in Gorlan independence and commanded a rescue mission of colonists on Vega Nine.
A number of years back I wrote out brief summaries of how familiar TOS episodes would've played out in the MU. It was a fun thought exercise.
Kirk sounds more like Darth Vader in that synopsis....
The deja vu then was bad enough, I guess, but then to have executed them in this universe...
The deja vu then was bad enough, I guess, but then to have executed them in this universe...
I honestly think TOS-Prime takes place in another universe, and we in real life are living in their "mirror universe." This is a world where clever, evil people lead the stupid, while those in opposition are consistently outmaneuvered, framed up, and boxed in. It's an interpretation of Star Trek I never dreamed of as a kid, but here we are. I think our future government looks more like tyranny than the ideals of liberty we older Americans grew up believing in.
Watching it after DSC mirror eps it seems extremely tame unfortunately.
Yeah I agree, I've thought that for a while.
Yeah I agree, I've thought that for a while.
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