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Final Trailer!

I've seen the trailer, and I have to say it didn't get my pulse up, even a little bit. I remember how exuberant I was following the first couple episodes of S2, only to have it fall off a cliff and leave a hole in the desert floor like Wile E. Coyote taking the plunge.

I'll give it a go, certainly, but I'm going in with super low expectations to shield myself against potential disappointment. Right now, for me, Strange New Worlds is where It's At in the Trek-verse.
 
Sometimes he replies, sometimes he does not, but I guess that he is a very busy man.

He's working on Witch Mountain.

Bright hopeful, optimistic, humanist Star Trek, where the human characters all get along and work together to solve problems.

We've had people shooting up churches and synagogues in recent years (Charleston, SC. Sutherland Springs, TX. Pittsburgh, PA).

We've had people being butchered just for being black (George Floyd, Jordan Davis, Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tyre Nichols).

There are people in our society who don't WANT to "get past it." They see putting their foot on someone's neck as "part of the culture."

Captained by the respected Jean Luc Picard, a wise, cultured, thoughtful, accomplished diplomat - who would rather solve problems with words than with weapons.

The same JLP who blasted his way through First Contact? :wtf:

Sod it! that's boring. Lets have a dark, gloomy, nihilistic and foreboding show where the cast chafe against one another.

The Enterprise crew members have lives after twenty years (Geordi, Troi, and Riker have kids now.)

It can't be easy to just pack up and run off towards the latest adventure.
 
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WOO-HOO! More Star Trek!

My only concern, I hope P+ doesn't get in the habit of a vacation from airing new episodes around this time every year. Please, everyone, unless they have other must see shows going on during the Holidays next year, please consider sending a message by suspending your account during a hiatus.
 
Without Season 1, we wouldn't be here today.
The hard part was softening Sir Pat and convincing him to do Star Trek: Picard!

Hence S1 Jean-Luc was no longer a Starfleet officer and he wasn't on a Starfleet vessel. Even for the most part of Season 2 and 3 the Admiral is not in a uniform in the traditional sense!

it's been a gradual process - even Season 3 was planned as a 'finale' he's gone on stage declaring he might want to make another movie!
 
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The same JLP who blasted his way through First Contact? :wtf:

One of the main themes in FC is that Picard going all Rambo is out of character for him and that he needed to set aside his emotional scars from being assimilated in order to make rational decisions again. It's unfortunate that future productions (and some fans, apparently) took the wrong meaning from it.
 
Meh. I'm on board. Looks like fun. Picard isn't my favorite of the new shows, but I enjoy it. It'll be a nice thing to watch during dinner when a new episode is released.
 
For those concerned about the lighting... check out the season 2 trailer and compare to the final product. Here's the Blu ray forum review of STP season 2 on physical media's screenshots. The color timing seems different, yes?

Another problem with STP on Paramount+ is the show is released in 1080p but with Dolby Vision. Unless you jack up the contrast on your TV, it can some up dark and undefined. This isn't a problem with SNW, which is done in 4K + DV, so gets the extra bandwidth. Or say Ghosts, which is in 4K but no extra color HDR or DV. Or something older like the original season of Twin Peaks, which is HD but no crazy color high dynamic range color schemes. If it really really bothers you, get Paramount+ through Amazon Prime, which I think shouldn't have the DV. Also look up your TV model on the AVS Forum, YouTube, or other reviews for calibration suggestions for your color settings. I have a Sony OLED, and have to make different settings for normal HD(SDR), HDR, and DV. Look and see if you see something like "peak luminance" -- set that to high. If that still isn't enough, see if there's something like an advanced contrast enhancer.

If you are a Game of Thrones fan, you may remember the controversy over the darkness during the 8x03 Battle of Winterfell. If you get the TV settings right, you can see everything...
 
One of the main themes in FC is that Picard going all Rambo is out of character for him and that he needed to set aside his emotional scars from being assimilated in order to make rational decisions again. It's unfortunate that future productions (and some fans, apparently) took the wrong meaning from it.
Picard himself doesn't seem very action-y during the first two seasons of PIC. Other characters yes, but not him. Though I'll admit that has more to do with him being in his 90s. During the first season, in particular, he's frail, still mopey about Data's death, and feels alienated from Starfleet. Not to mention he was suffering from a terminal illness. He works his way through all of that over the course of PIC Season 1, and that's not the same as the Rambo Picard from the TNG Movies.

When he's back with the TNG characters this upcoming season, I think he slips back into acting like he used to the last time he was around all of them... which, like it or not, was Nemesis.

The Picard I see in the PIC Season 3 Trailer doesn't feel like FC Picard and he doesn't feel like PIC S1-S2 Picard. He's sorted through the issues that were weighing so heavily on him, it seems. I'm getting more of an Insurrection and Nemesis vibe out of him, if anything.

EDITED TO ADD: But I can ONLY go by the Trailer, a trailer that, it needs to be stressed, was shown during the Superbowl. Like someone else said, the trailer had to be action-y, given the audience that was watching it.

The trailer for DSC Season 4 made it look like it was action-packed and that turned out not to be the case. If anything, the common complaint about the season was that it was too slow and too many characters spent too much time talking about their feelings. The trailer and the actual season itself couldn't have been any more different.

Though I think the trailer for PIC S3 will be closer to the tone of the actual season itself than was the case for DSC S4.
 
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One of the main themes in FC is that Picard going all Rambo is out of character for him and that he needed to set aside his emotional scars from being assimilated in order to make rational decisions again. It's unfortunate that future productions (and some fans, apparently) took the wrong meaning from it.
That one doesn't just get over emotional scars? Also, that he has had further scaring due to other emotional difficulties?

I don't think they've learned the wrong meaning. I think it's an acknowledgement that these are not easy things to get past.
 
Probably more suited to the wild speculation thread but it occurs to me how similar Vadic pronounces "Picard" to Norah Satie in The Drumhead. Almost spits it like an accusation. Could just be the accents?
 
For those concerned about the lighting...

Thank you for all the information and specifications. I will freely admit that our new-fangled OLED TV is too high-tech for me to understand. Getting it out of its packaging, I almost stopped breathing from the nerve-wracking “exhale too loudly and it breaks” instructions.
 
He's working on Witch Mountain.
But surely he must have tea breaks? Also, Matalas should be working on the new Star Trek spin-off by now never mind this Witch Mountain. Unless ‘Witch Mountain’ is the new Star Trek series production code name?:shrug:
 
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Thank you for all the information and specifications. I will freely admit that our new-fangled OLED TV is too high-tech for me to understand. Getting it out of its packaging, I almost stopped breathing from the nerve-wracking “exhale too loudly and it breaks” instructions.
Do you have a Sony or LG? Also, only dry cloths cleaning the screen and be careful of screen burn in...
 
People should note a trend. This is what I've observed over the last 15 years from various reactions...

Kelvin Films --> "That's not Star Trek!"
Discovery --> "What have they done to Star Trek?!"
Picard --> "What have they done to MY Star Trek?!"
Strange New Worlds --> "That's Star Trek!"

There's been a gradual trend towards shifting back to you getting your way. When PIC Season 3 is done, you'll get more Star Trek that's done your way. So much of it that you'll eventually get sick of it again, just like you did last time during the Berman Era.
 
Also, Matalas should be working on the new Star Trek spin-off by now never mind this Witch Mountain.
What authority do you have that you can say what someone should or should not be doing?

Unless ‘Witch Mountain’ is the new Star Trek series production code name?
No
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_Mountain_(franchise)#Television

He's working on Witch Mountain.
As far as I can tell, he's only a writer on Witch Mountain.
 
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Very much agreed. It looked like any generic scifi action movie which is what ST has become at the theater anyway.
Starting with TWOK
The 'hopeful' part that I can think of is that they showed this during an NFL football game so they have to play up to the action given the audience, you know?
They've been playing up the action in trailers since TMP
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People should note a trend. This is what I've observed over the last 15 years from various reactions...

Kelvin Films --> "That's not Star Trek!"
Discovery --> "What have they done to Star Trek?!"
Picard --> "What have they done to MY Star Trek?!"
Strange New Worlds --> "That's Star Trek!"

There's been a gradual trend towards shifting back to you getting your way. When PIC Season 3 is done, you'll get more Star Trek that's done your way. So much of it that you'll eventually get sick of it again, just like you did last time during the Berman Era.
Haha somewhat guilty... But, SNW to me is a weird mashup of Discovery, The Orville, and TOS, taking the flaws of those three instead of the strengths. SNW really hits the uncanny valley of it so not being in continuity with all the classic stuff. Whereas I actually more or less liked Discovery season 1 once I accepted it's a parallel universe reboot and should be informed by canon but not bound by or bounding on the rest of it. The Orville is basically parallel universe Star Trek where the tone is the same but the aliens are all different.

And, look, ENT got really good during season 4. Imagine if Manny Coto and that team had gotten three more seasons. Berman era stagnation was thanks to UPN not wanting early serialization and on the film side getting stuck pleasing Patrick Stewart and the studio wanting constant rehashes of TWOK. Unfortunally Star Trek was absent during the golden age of TV post-Sopranos and pre-streaming mediocrity glut.
 
What authority do you have that you can say what someone should or should not be doing?
I meant writing wise, so that the next Trek series is ready for fall 2024. I was not bossing him about or ordering him to do something, I promise. I am sorry if it came across that way but there is definitely a lot of pre production work that needs to be done. :shrug:
 
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