Final Trailer!

[donners22]

While over on Picard Matalas has written several very good TV shows himself, is a huge Trekkie and was even production assistant on the final two seasons of Voyager which most people say are the best seasons. He was there when Trek was "as it should be" and seems to understand the weight of responsibility on his shoulders with this final season.

"As it should be" - rapidly losing its audience because it had become stale, predictable and largely irrelevant?

Voyager was widely derided by the fanbase at the time and dismissed as "TNG lite", having thrown away its premise to stick to the TNG formula. I don't recall the last two seasons being considered by "most" to be the best (if nothing else, the Doctor's character was ruined).

Voyager should be a warning for the modern series, not something to aspire to.

 

[Tuskin38]

Terry was also on DS9 and Enterprise. He even has a cameo in the Enterprise series finale.

Memory-Alpha doesn't mention his DS9 role, but I believe he said he worked as a post-production associate or something.

 

[Vger23]

Came here for the outlandish over-reactions and complaints about “not real Star Trek with an OPTIMISTIC VISION OF THE FUTURE,” and “why is everything so dark???”

I am not disappointed.

Same drill since 2009. I’m amazed that things can be so consistent, quite frankly.

 

[Aragorn]

That was BEFORE Season One aired.

Strange New Worlds after Season One -> "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MY STAR TREK?! IT'S NOW GONE ALL WOKE!"

There's no pleasing some people.

I do remember seeing a bunch of keyboard warriors foaming at the mouth because the SNW bridge was all women outside of Pike and the occasional glorified extra.

 

[Lord Garth]

Came here for the outlandish over-reactions and complaints about “not real Star Trek with an OPTIMISTIC VISION OF THE FUTURE,” and “why is everything so dark???”

I am not disappointed.

Same drill since 2009. I’m amazed that things can be so consistent, quite frankly.

You were smart to avoid posting in this thread. Smarter than I was.

 

[ananta]

It's a reference to the movies.

I guess it is. The trailer definitely captured the style, tone and content of TNG movies…whether that’s good or bad is a matter of opinion. I was hoping for at least a hint of the spirit of the TV show. Still hopeful. The trailer for Star Trek Beyond was truly shite, but that movie ranks among the best.

 

[Tuskin38]

I guess it is. The trailer definitely captured the style, tone and content of TNG movies…whether that’s good or bad is a matter of opinion. I was hoping for at least a hint of the spirit of the TV show. Still hopeful.

Trailers are misleading.
Someone posted the TMP trailer a couple pages back and it made it looks like an action romp.

 

[ananta]

Trailers are misleading.
Someone posted the TMP trailer a couple pages back and it made it looks like an action romp.

I agree, I actually edited my post just as you were posting this as Beyond came to mind.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Who's the guy in the trailer who says "Is anyone you knew...still the person you knew"?

 

[RuleofAcuisition17]

So it would've been fine had Burnham been a MAN?

Starfleet is a paramilitary unit. Name me one military unit that makes decisions by committee.

God no, the character's just sucks.

Spoiler: trying to make my post easy to skip

The problem I have is the character hasn't had their "come to jesus" hubris breaking moment. Where they can't really keep doing things the way they have been. Instead they've just blindly bull-in-a-china shopped their way through and it's worked, usually with a chagrined "Oh sorry Burnham, you were right all along!" It's become a bit of a lazy hollywood trope to think a strong female lead has to be basically a dude, and a completely reprehensible one at that. It also seems to be male writers making this mistake when some of the strongest women I've ever known in real life were incredibly feminine and it was the makeup of their character and actions which made them strong. It's like someone is trying to write Tomboys who's never seen one before and winds up writing about the Jock that bullied them in high school. With boobs. Burnham would suck no matter who was in the role, male or female.

To boil it down to show terms. Janeway is strong. Kira Neris is strong. Kai Wynn is strong. Deanna Troi is strong.

Burnham's an arse.

The Military Committee of NATO's? Every military procurement committee? Starfleet's militaryness is always hilariously vague and at times I feel they should canonically shit or get off the pot and begin divinding themselves back into a "War Fleet" and an "Exploration fleet" like they used to have in the 2200s

Season 5 is still an overarching story based on the trailer and what we know of the story. They're not following SNW.

Then clearly something's changed enormously since I read that is exactly what they're going to do for season 5 and Kovalchick in the NYCC trailer quite literally going "there's a big galaxy out there. Get to it." which suggests a bit more of an open ended plot.

Came here for the outlandish over-reactions and complaints about “not real Star Trek with an OPTIMISTIC VISION OF THE FUTURE,” and “why is everything so dark???”

I am not disappointed.

Same drill since 2009. I’m amazed that things can be so consistent, quite frankly.

BUT WHY IS IT SO DAMN DARK? Was the budget blown entirely on hiring all the actors on at their proper rates to play these characters again? Did the lighting guy not get his favourite snacks and the craft table and quit partway through production? Is Terry secretly a vampire and thus hates bright lights? We'll never know!

We can't bloody see it to find out.

I do remember seeing a bunch of keyboard warriors foaming at the mouth because the SNW bridge was all women outside of Pike and the occasional glorified extra.

See, the warriors thought it was to be tokenistic and woke.

I say it's so Pike could oggle an all female bridge crew in those leggins for a bottom half of a uniform.

 

[XCV330]

I finally found my trailer review. From a show better lit than Picard.

 

[fireproof78]

I feel they should canonically shit or get off the pot and begin divinding themselves back into a "War Fleet" and an "Exploration fleet" like they used to have in the 2200s

That would certainly clear up a number of threads around here at least. So, I agree on this part.

 

[Aragorn]

Who's the guy in the trailer who says "Is anyone you knew...still the person you knew"?

New character. Also on the poster. Lots of speculation on who he is that's probably correct.

 

[RuleofAcuisition17]

That would certainly clear up a number of threads around here at least. So, I agree on this part.

The Defiant is clearly a warship. Officially it's an "Escort Vessel".

It feels very Japanese Maritime Self Defence Force "Throughdeck Destroyer". Ya know?

Just Admit you have a fleet to beat the other dudes if they do dumb stuff already.

 

[Tuskin38]

Then clearly something's changed enormously since I read that is exactly what they're going to do for season 5 and Kovalchick in the NYCC trailer quite literally going "there's a big galaxy out there. Get to it." which suggests a bit more of an open ended plot.

They're chasing after some sort of lost treasure, it's in the trailer.

 

[fireproof78]

The Defiant is clearly a warship. Officially it's an "Escort Vessel".

It feels very Japanese Maritime Self Defence Force "Throughdeck Destroyer". Ya know?

Just Admit you have a fleet to beat the other dudes if they do dumb stuff already.

Well, until they do it will be debated about endlessly. See this for the latest thread on the subject.

 

[RuleofAcuisition17]

I understand that you love SNW. I think SNW is okay. And I'm okay with one SNW. We don't need five SNWs. Which I get the impression is what you want.

You have your show and you can enjoy it. I have mine and I can enjoy mine.

There's a lot of stuff to unpack in that post of yours, but this is not the place to do it, and I no longer post in the DSC Forum, except once in a blue moon. So, without a place that I'm willing to hash it out at, we'll agree to disagree about the show and leave it at that.

Oof, no. I'm firmly in the "I really enjoy 3/5 shows currently of Trek" crowd. I love SNW, Prodigy and Lower Decks. I'm rather skeptical of Picard and Discovery, but have still watched them. I grew up on DS9 and Voyager on BBC2 in the UK, which usually tapped out for a rerun of the classic battlestar galatica in its timeslot when they couldn't air either of them. So I suppose a lot of what I feel Trek "is" is viewed through that Lens. (Your own experiences may vary)

I didn't fully appreciate either show until they appeared on Netflix and you could go through them fairly seemlessly rather than waiting for them to appear every Tuesday night at 6.30.

They're chasing after some sort of lost treasure, it's in the trailer.

Ooo then it has changed a bit then. Unless it's the "overarching" plot.

Well, until they do it will be debated about endlessly. See this for the latest thread on the subject.

Hurray, more places to debate people on the internet!

 

[JoseNoodles]

While I'm excited for Season 3, this trailer really didn't do it for me. It shows a lot of imagery, but ultimately nothing noteworthy. Let's hope the season lives up to the review hype.

 

[fireproof78]

While I'm excited for Season 3, this trailer really didn't do it for me. It shows a lot of imagery, but ultimately nothing noteworthy. Let's hope the season lives up to the review hype.

Spoiler alert: It won't.

Hype is hard to live up too. Hell, people were posting just being disappointed in the trailer something meant to gin up excitement and an excuse to set money on fire.

 

[JoseNoodles]

What's funny is that this trailer does do something trailers rarely do nowadays. It showcased the production without giving away the story. However, the presentation just seems so random and unfocused, it fails to drum up any excitement from me.