"Enterprise" too advanced for 22nd Century

[Shamrock Holmes]

IRL, isn't the helmsman a young enlisted man(or woman)?

Yup.

Boatswain's Mate (helm) and Quartermaster (navigation) in the USN, Boatswain's Mate in the USCG; Seaman Specialist in the RN (tho particularly in the Submarine Service, Medical* & Logistics ratings also stand such watches).

*The Royal Australian Navy rating of "Naval Police Coxswain" include law enforcement/discipline, medical specialist (esp on the patrol boats) and senior helmsman.

 

[publiusr]

I can see--in my mind's eye--Sternbach's line drawing of the NX-01 coming before the TOS Enterprise.

 

[suarezguy]

Though I'm not particularly bothered by the interiors seeming too TNG-esque rather than pre-original series, it would have been a nice effort to at least have not had transporters, at least until the last season, for the crew to really have to rely just on shuttles with all the greater dangers that might involve. Having to rely just on audio rather than also visual communications also could have made the show feel more unique.

I do think the hull plating was treated as pretty identical to shields but I don't think that was a big problem.

 

[publiusr]

You see UFO believers say there is a secret space program--well, maybe someone on a Daeladus is told "you didn't see nuthin'"

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

You see UFO believers say there is a secret space program--well, maybe someone on a Daeladus is told "you didn't see nuthin'"

Huh? How does that relate to Enterprise?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Though I'm not particularly bothered by the interiors seeming too TNG-esque rather than pre-original series,

Did we watch the same shows?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

If anything the interiors of the NX01 make it look more confined like you are on a submarine where space is at a premium and every space is used to maximum utility.

 

[Christopher]

If anything the interiors of the NX01 make it look more confined like you are on a submarine where space is at a premium and every space is used to maximum utility.

Yeah. Part of the reason the TOS Enterprise was so roomy was simply because the cameras were so big back then, so the corridors and sets had to be spacious enough to accommodate them.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I like the Enterprise interiors they seem very fitting to the design.

It's one of if not THE favourite ship for me in Star Trek

 

[Prax]

You know, if you look closely at console designs on the NX, I think they did take a lot of inspiration from TOS. And I don't just mean the viewfinders.

As for other things like visual communications, they had that in TOS, and even though such a thing probably didn't exist in the 60's; we have that now, and had it back when Enterprise was on air.

 

[Christopher]

As for other things like visual communications, they had that in TOS, and even though such a thing probably didn't exist in the 60's;

Videophones have been around in prototype since the 1930s, and the AT&T Picturephone was introduced in 1964. They never really became practical or cheap enough for widespread adoption, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_videotelephony

 

[Prax]

That's awesome. I remember being surprised reading of how long CD's have actually been around, or how GPS type navigation predates satellites.

 

[Christopher]

That's awesome. I remember being surprised reading of how long CD's have actually been around, or how GPS type navigation predates satellites.

There was a recent Facebook thread about why most science fiction (with the exception of "A Logic Named Joe") failed to predict the Internet, and a number of responders cited "predictions" from the '80s and '90s, apparently not aware that the Internet as we know it was already basically in place by the early '80s and the word was coined in 1973.

 

[Prax]

Someone should start a thread...

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

There was a recent Facebook thread about why most science fiction (with the exception of "A Logic Named Joe") failed to predict the Internet, and a number of responders cited "predictions" from the '80s and '90s, apparently not aware that the Internet as we know it was already basically in place by the early '80s and the word was coined in 1973.

It's easy to get the internet confused with the World Wide Web

 

[Prax]

I'm gonna go surf the net for a bit.

 

[Christopher]

It's easy to get the internet confused with the World Wide Web

Yeah, but the Web was up by '91 and one person in the thread cited Snow Crash (1992) and Babylon 5 (1993) as "predicting" it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's easy to get the internet confused with the World Wide Web

It's a series of tubes.

 

[Prax]

So what was the interval between internet existing, and internet porn existing?

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

So what was the interval between internet existing, and internet porn existing?

Well, I think the ability to ftp boobies came about with the invention of the jpg format...

Pages and pages of coded text on newsgroup pages that had to be stitched together and decoded...

Provocative ASCII art...

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