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"Enterprise" too advanced for 22nd Century
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You didn't read far enough into what was being discussed.
In any given time frame, there's only one blue. What this blue looks like, depends on whether it's a regular or a guest character.
Meaning: Blue uniforms that were worn by regulars, such as Beverly, were likely to be more faded than those worn only once (Picard in "Tapestry") simply because regular characters' uniforms would be put through the laundry again and again.
It's much more inline than Discovery is gonna be. At least Enterprise tried. Discovery is completely ignoring...
How so?
Going just by the trailers, Next Gen forcefield technology in the pre-TOS era.
In "Journey to Babel" They had to depressurise the shuttlebay to receive a craft. In Discovery, 10 years earlier on the supposedly older model starship Shenzhou, They have an atmospheric forcefield.
In Wrath of Khan, we see bulkheads drop to seal hull breaches. But the Discovery trailer - now 25 years earlier - has Nemesis-style forcefields to seal catastrophic hull breaches.
In DS9, the holographic communication thingie was considered new and impressive. In Discovery, 100 years earlier, Burnham chats to a full size, 3D Sarek hologram.
They didn't just update the visuals, they made changes to the technology that don't fit with earlier shows. Hence, reboot.
And there were no forcefields at all on Enterprise. That means someone was keeping track. I don't think Enterprise really broke any continuity; narratively, or visually. The biggest complaints(continuity wise) that I usually hear are "The Ferengi...." this or "The Borg" that. If those are the worst offenses, I'd say they did a pretty good job making it fit.
As for the new series, I don't know when it should've been placed. Imo, the most interesting new series they could have done would be the original anthology idea, having different stories in different eras. As it is, I just don't see a lot of interesting ways to do a sequel or prequel.
I'm very much expecting this show to feel like the new movies made into an HBO drama. Everything will be a secret, with a few "reveals" in each episode, and every episode a cliff hanger with neither a beginning or nor end, always chasing after the next "mystery box." That kinda thing seems to be popular these days, so I'm sure everyone will like it, but it would've been nice to have something a little more refreshing.
As for the new series, I don't know when it should've been placed. Imo, the most interesting new series they could have done would be the original anthology idea, having different stories in different eras. As it is, I just don't see a lot of interesting ways to do a sequel or prequel.
I'm very much expecting this show to feel like the new movies made into an HBO drama. Everything will be a secret, with a few "reveals" in each episode, and every episode a cliff hanger with neither a beginning or nor end, always chasing after the next "mystery box." That kinda thing seems to be popular these days, so I'm sure everyone will like it, but it would've been nice to have something a little more refreshing.
So really Star Trek Discovery is more advanced then TOS
Yes, Reed's character and role were much more developed than, say, Travis Mayweather's who was also deliberately cast as much younger and junior.
The Discovery is a brand new ship. Seems like the Shenzhou is too. The Enterprise is already a decade old by 2256.
So it's not a prequel? I'm confused lol I thought the Shenzhou has stuff they didn't have in TOS
The Shenzhou is older then the Discovery.
Discovery is a prequel to TOS
The Enterprise was already in service for 10+ years by Season 1 of TOS is what the Ensign is saying.
You do realize there were two captains of the Enterprise before Kirk, right? Sone people are acting like the Discovery is either "the same time as TOS" (getting upset because the uniforms aren't the ones from TOS) or decades before it (acting like every part of it is older than Kirk's Enterprise).
It seems that way to me, although I guess they may have some explanation lined up. Personally, I'm not fussed and am treating DSC as much a part of the TOS universe as Gotham is a part of any of the Batman movie series'. Based on the same stuff, you know how it's all gonna end, but the details are different.
Yes I know there were captains before Kirk who had that ship.
In fac I'd say we should see him as more senior, precisely because of his experience, age notwithstanding.
Travis was 25 when he arrived on NX-01, that's enough time to promote to LT-JG if it exists and maybe LT if it doesn't. Given his prior experience, a relatively senior rating would also made sense. FWIW, Mirror! Travis was a MACO Sergeant (probably roughly equivalent of a Petty Officer (RN)).
