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Dramedy: why is this a thing? (TV shows)

Orville

By halfway through the first season, it really finds its stride, and by the second season, the humor is almost non-existant. By the third it is completely gone.
I don't mind the humor, it was just "too much" in the first two episodes. Basically, let it slide as early series "finding itself," kind'a how TNG was bonkers in its early episodes? :lol:

It is the spiritual successor to TNG in every way, and in some cases, in my contraversial opinion, actually improves on some things.
I already have that in Voyager. :D
The first few episodes are the outlier, in that they pitched Fox a Family Guy meets Star Trek show. They stop doing it as soon as humanly possible.
Maybe I will give the 3rd episode a go. Thank you. :beer:
I just rewatched TNG S1-3, and am having trouble slogging through S4, let alone 5-7. (first time since i was a kid, as well, and ONLY because of the grace and forgiveness Picard S03 gave me for the show.)
Oh, we're both on the same season. Which episode did you watch last? I think I last watched the devil lady episode. Picard was not amused, except maybe at the end. :lol:
I would absolutely rewatch the Orville and enjoy it more.
:beer:
 
Yes. I am curious. I like evaluating TV shows from story and from production POV's.


Well, I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you by saying that I don't know why it is. I feel like the fact that it's only a half-hour long is one of the few remaining sitcom elements. Might have even been first proposed as a sitcom, but it definitely hits different. The Wonder Years was also only a half-hour, and I feel Young Sheldon is very similar to it as a dramedy.
 
Buffy comes across as almost entirely satirical in most places and is constant jokes and one liners. Compare it to Supernatural or the X Files and you will see what I mean.

I think the last one I watched was Future Imperfect. I stalled at Suddenly Human, had no interest remotely in it. I skipped Reunion for the moment. I'm stalled again in general. I like TNG's earlier seasons a lot, when its still kind of playing with fun sci fi and TOS tropes. It peaks at the Best of Both Worlds, and is downhill from there IMO. I always said I was going to skip from Best of Both Worlds to First Contact, like 3 seasons of TOS and jumping to Wrath of Khan, skipping the first movie. I am trying to actually watch the show proper, but it is a losing battle.

I can't stand Voyager. Another waste of good potential that doesn't live up to its premise.
 
Ted Lasso is a nice example of a comedy with dramatic elements that in my view works on both levels. The best ones leverage the comedy for drama and vice versa, so that the scripts work smoothly and you don't get that tonal whiplash all the time.
 
Well, I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you by saying that I don't know why it is. I feel like the fact that it's only a half-hour long is one of the few remaining sitcom elements. Might have even been first proposed as a sitcom, but it definitely hits different. The Wonder Years was also only a half-hour, and I feel Young Sheldon is very similar to it as a dramedy.
I watched Wonder Years as a kid, but I don't remember it. I guess I'm just used to one-hour being drama and half-hour being sitcom. :shrug: Given BBT is a sitcom, I just assume the prequel would be too.
Buffy comes across as almost entirely satirical in most places and is constant jokes and one liners. Compare it to Supernatural or the X Files and you will see what I mean.
Vampires, werewolves, witches, monsters, I always took it to be a horror show with camp and comedy mixed it. I only ever saw a few episodes, and they all played out like a horror movie.
I think the last one I watched was Future Imperfect. I stalled at Suddenly Human, had no interest remotely in it. I skipped Reunion for the moment. I'm stalled again in general. I like TNG's earlier seasons a lot, when its still kind of playing with fun sci fi and TOS tropes. It peaks at the Best of Both Worlds, and is downhill from there IMO. I always said I was going to skip from Best of Both Worlds to First Contact, like 3 seasons of TOS and jumping to Wrath of Khan, skipping the first movie. I am trying to actually watch the show proper, but it is a losing battle.
I am bouncing around between different TV shows. On TNG's 4th season, next episode is 4-14 "Clues." From the first 13 episodes, here's a quick review: "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II," "Family," and "Brothers" made for a strong opening trilogy of episodes. The Borg, the aftermath, and a Data-themed episode that's one of my favorites of the series. "Suddenly Human" is OK, but it's one of those quiet ethical type episodes. "Remember Me" has Doctor Crusher front and center, so what's not to like? :adore: "Legacy" is good if you miss Natasha Yar," and "Reunion" is a Worf-centric Klingon episode. :klingon: "Future Imperfect" is a mind-bendy Riker-centric episode, and we say goodbye to Wesley in "Final Mission." "The Loss" is Deanna-centric and explores some really realistic drama regarding facing the possibility of a disability becoming permanent. I used to be a cripple (I got better), so this episode resonates with me. "Data's Day" is pretty good if you love Data or you're a fan of the kind of humor that surrounds Data. It's also O'Brien heavy and it introduces Keiko and Spot. "The Wounded" introduced the Cardassians and the Nebula-class starship and O'Briens "I don't like Carddies" backstory. The last one I saw was "Devil's Due" which is a courtroom drama. The actors playing Picard and Data seemed to have a lot of fun with this one. Season 4: Overall, I found the front half (13 episodes) to be pretty strong.
I can't stand Voyager. Another waste of good potential that doesn't live up to its premise.
What was it? The DQ setting, the ship, the characters, the actors, the writing, the overall production, "it's not TNG?"
 
Ted Lasso is a nice example of a comedy with dramatic elements that in my view works on both levels. The best ones leverage the comedy for drama and vice versa, so that the scripts work smoothly and you don't get that tonal whiplash all the time.
Between Scrubs and Ted Lasso, Bill Lawrence has the market cornered on that particular blend of dramatic comedies.
 
I watched Wonder Years as a kid, but I don't remember it. I guess I'm just used to one-hour being drama and half-hour being sitcom. :shrug: Given BBT is a sitcom, I just assume the prequel would be too.

No, that's just an expectation since dramas have have tradtionally been an hour long, but it isn't always the case. But even the creator Chuck Lorre had said he'd wanted to approach Young Sheldon differently. The spinoff about Georgie and Mandy is back to being a sitcom. complete with laugh track.
 
No, that's just an expectation since dramas have have tradtionally been an hour long, but it isn't always the case. But even the creator Chuck Lorre had said he'd wanted to approach Young Sheldon differently. The spinoff about Georgie and Mandy is back to being a sitcom. complete with laugh track.
Oh, so TBBT has 2 prequels now? I wonder if they'll do a sequel show or maybe pick one character and give him or her their own show, kind'a like Cheers and Frasier. What do you think?

Do you like TBBT? I have it on my Max watchlist.
 
I dunno, could be possible. They certainly seem to be milking TBBT currently.

Ironically enough, while I've tried many times, I just never could get into TBBT. But I don't like most sitcoms, aside very few like Frasier for instance. But I fell in love with Young Sheldon because of the different format and approach it took. There are very few shows willing to break the mould.
 
I dunno, could be possible. They certainly seem to be milking TBBT currently.

Ironically enough, while I've tried many times, I just never could get into TBBT. But I don't like most sitcoms, aside very few like Frasier for instance. But I fell in love with Young Sheldon because of the different format and approach it took. There are very few shows willing to break the mould.
Some remakes I really love and am watching or would love to watch again that I would recommend:
Boy Meets World & Girl Meets World (haven't seen the sequel)
Cheers & Frasier (still watching the original, haven't seen the revival series)
Family Matters
Friends (I didn't care for this one, but people love it)
Full House & Fuller House (haven't seen the sequel)
The Golden Girls & The Golden Palace (haven't seen the sequel, it has everyone but Dorothy)
Home Improvement
I Love Lucy
The Jeffersons
Mad About You
Malcolm in the Middle
NewsRadio
The Office (I've only see YouTube clips, but it looks awesome)
Seinfeld
Step by Step

There's probably more, but there's plenty here to check out. The 90's was definitely the best decade of sitcoms, but there's also been good ones before and sense.
 
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