And yet still better than DVDs. Funny how that works.
Best way to watch DS9?
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And yet still better than DVDs. Funny how that works.
Amazon then. Or CBSAA. Or on your DVD player. Still unsure why this is a topic. I clicked on it assuming it was about what episodes to watch first, whether to watch it in order because of the serialized nature, that sort of thing. I mean really. If you've got a streaming service, watch it there. If you've got the DVDs and prefer that format, pop those 20th century relics in your player and enjoy.
I'm not sure what the debate is.
How can it be better than DVD? For Netflix and iTunes CBS needs to deinterlace the video to get it from 480i to 480p. Unless they’ve recently recaptured the original D2 tapes through a Terenex or similar device that did a hardware deinterlace, from what I’ve seen, DS9 & Voyager have just been cheaply deinterlaced with software That threw out half their resolution and doubled the remaining lines. Seriously, a $25 dollar upscaling/upconverting DVD player from Walmart provides a much better deinterlaced picture than what is currently on the various streaming sites like Netflix and iTunes, because those players are using hardware, and not software.
DVD’s give you the original 480i image from the D2 Tape, so your DVD player is able to deinterlace and upscale from that.
Really it’s analogous to the VHS/Laserdisc debate in the 90’s, where Netflix and iTunes are comparable to VHS and DVD’s are comparable to Laserdisc.
Maybe because there's more to a dvd than tech specs. I will never understand being obsessed with specs, but hey, you do you. And specs or not, Netflix is not low quality as you describe. That's just utter hogwash.
Really?
Wow! Netflix is so cheap. And, you can see all episodes!!!! I mostly watch it now in bed at night, on Netflix on my phone. I can't tell you how many nights that I have fallen asleep to Vic Fontaine singing, ha ha.
Sorry but Netflix and iTunes are low quality. Even in HD, Blu-Ray leaves Netflix & iTunes in the dust. When I’m watching a 1080p video on iTunes or Netflix, it looks little better than an upscaled DVD compared to a Blu-Ray version.
If 1080p on Netflix looks only a little better than upscaled DVD on your set up then something is wrong. Either you're not actually getting a 1080p stream or your settings aren't correct.
Also Netflix has 4k content and HDR and some 4k HDR. In most areas 4k HDR looks better than blu-ray. iTunes UHD is also better than blu-ray and probably the best available quality out there for streaming.
Not funny, because not true.
The first few look terrible on both DVD and Netflix to me. This is one of the reasons I'd love a DS9 remaster, in spite of how unlikely it seems.
Having said that, when Patrick Stewart made his cheeky remarks on not yet having seen Discovery but having good cause to very soon, I still couldn't imagine him agreeing to a return for another Star Trek series. So I still live in hope of the former.
As for aspect ratios, I always use to prefer watching 4:3 stuff stretched out. But ever since I started watching TNG in HD with the original aspect ratio, I haven't been able to go back. Even in SD stuff. This happened because my Amazon TV stick couldn't alter the ratio on Netflix, but the Blu-ray player in the bedroom would, and I had to change it so it wouldn't in the end.
Having said that, when Patrick Stewart made his cheeky remarks on not yet having seen Discovery but having good cause to very soon, I still couldn't imagine him agreeing to a return for another Star Trek series. So I still live in hope of the former.
As for aspect ratios, I always use to prefer watching 4:3 stuff stretched out. But ever since I started watching TNG in HD with the original aspect ratio, I haven't been able to go back. Even in SD stuff. This happened because my Amazon TV stick couldn't alter the ratio on Netflix, but the Blu-ray player in the bedroom would, and I had to change it so it wouldn't in the end.
Not entirely true. It depends on the input signal. Some broadcasts/devices send the black bars along with the signal to the TV (I understand it's partly related to upscaling features). In those cases, 4/3 will shrink picture even further, but 16/9 will retain the 4/3 aspect ratio.
It's actually hilariously true. You're just not seeing the full picture. In more ways than one.
Not only that, but they're not on physical media, which inherently makes them better. I'm watching Incredibles 2 on Netflix right now on a 60-some inch TV and it looks just as good as when I saw it in the theater. Anyone can tell me that horizontal lines and dots per inch and compression rates, and maybe all of that is true, but end result is a visual as good as any other medium. It's like when people tell me vinyl is better than a CD or an MP4 because there's techinically less data delivered. So what? My ear can't tell the difference, and neither can my 20/20 vision.
Leads me to believe some people don't have good internet connections.
You're right, but then there are overscan and zoom options which let you fill up more of the screen. All moot though as watching it as intended is the best way, so DS9 in 4:3 is the only for me.
The best way to watch DS9 is in a surround sound home theater. The sound masters on that series were quite inventive creating some interesting background noise to make Deep Space Nine a monstrosity. I don't give a sh*t about the 4th - 7th seasons so my man and I never bothered to set the system up for that.
The files used on Netflix originate with the DVD transfers, they are not better.
Oh I’m getting a 1080p stream (and I’m watching the videos on an Apple 4K TV over HDMI and the videos are being downloaded to it’s hard drive from the cloud, of course my TV can only display 1080p, so not upconverting to 4K).
Netflix and iTunes are heavily compressed and that really affects the video quality. Even D-VHS in 1080i over component video looks a lot better than Netflix or iTunes when I compare a movie such as “X-Men” (2000). At most, Netflix and iTunes are comparable to broadcast TV. And bit rate plays a huge factor in a video file. Sure they may come out with better compression schrmes, but really you are still physically getting rid redundant data. And in the case of DS9 and Voyager they are going from an already heavily compressed MPEG2 DVD file to an even further compressed H.264 or H.265/MP4. This is analogous to, in the 90’s, going from a S-VHS copy in SP to a VHS in SLP/EP. The VHS is watchable, but it doesn’t have the quality or resolution of the S-VHS.
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