You mean the lit dome at the bottom of the saucer?
Ambassador Class Variations
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You mean the lit dome at the bottom of the saucer?
Yes, I did a rough measurement on the Refit Connie, and I can understand why they would limit it to 90° FoV as a guess.
No hard confirmations, but the StarDrive Section would be in the way if they went any wider than that. 90° FoV already cuts VERY close to the StarDrive's Main Deflector Dish, barely misses it by a few meters.
Hmm, wouldn't it be 360 degrees horizontal and 180 degrees facing down with the neck, engineering hull and warp pylons being the obstruction?
It would be 360° laterally like a flashlight cone, but from the Orthogonal Line point facing Ventrally down from the saucer, you would have a 90° Arc.
Here, let me show you what I'm talking about.
If you go much past the 90° FoV, you risk getting false sensor readings from your own StarDrive/Main Deflector Dish.
If your ship was designed differently and the Star Drive wasn't in the way, it looks like you could get up to 150° FoV.
You got to remember the band around the base of the PSD limits some of the FoV, or you design your sensors to ignore certain dead spots in the sensor angles that would give you bad data because your own ships structure is in the way.
It would be 360° laterally like a flashlight cone, but from the Orthogonal Line point facing Ventrally down from the saucer, you would have a 90° Arc.
Here, let me show you what I'm talking about.
If you look carefully, each there's about 90° total FoV (45° off of the main Orthogonal Axis from the Saucer section).
If you go much past the 90° FoV, you risk getting false sensor readings from your own StarDrive/Main Deflector Dish.
If your ship was designed differently and the Star Drive wasn't in the way, it looks like you could get up to 150° FoV.
You got to remember the band around the base of the PSD limits some of the FoV, or you design your sensors to ignore certain dead spots in the sensor angles that would give you bad data because your own ships structure is in the way.
Oh I see. You're artificially limiting the FOV because you placed the sensor array further up on the saucer and you are not allowing for the sensor to look to the sides of the engineering hull. You're also assuming that the ship's own structure would cause interference when they might not given how often sensors are used to scan other ships.
Curious, why the question when you already had an answer in mind?
I didn't have an answer when @publiusr brought up the Keyword Sensor Dome and I asked.
Then that got might head spinning and I thought up how wide it could scan and I quickly derived an answer based on the data I could get off of some side orthographical drawings I had lying around and the protractor template.
I figured out the answer on the fly and decided to share it after I asked.
The main issue with the Connie is how close the StarDrive is to that point on the Saucer, I would have to artificially limit it to not get false sensor data to ignore, which is quite wasteful when you think of base design.
They wouldn't be that wasteful in base design at StarFleet, so they would have to have limited it from the outset.
Obviously if you change the design, you can design some sensors that have the wider FoV or get a Saucer and StarDrive combo that isn't in the way.
It sounds like you're unnecessarily limiting the sensor's capability when we don't know what the limitations are. We know the Enterprise is fully capable of scanning other ships and also itself so I seriously doubt the engineering hull would get in the way of their dome sensors. The engineering hull aka stardrive would block any optical sensor from the dome but they can always switch to a different optical sensor on the ship.
I know it's scanning capability are pretty amazing, but based on practical FoV reasons, I limit it.
Unless there is a desire for a high resolution scan of your own Deflector Dish from your Planetary Sensor Dome.
Then they might not limit it at all if there is value in seeing high resolution data about your own Primary Deflector Dish =D
That seems to be missing the point that the Enterprise has successfully scanned the insides of other ships for life forms (see "Day of the Dove" and "The Enterprise Incident") so they more than likely can scan right past their Long Range Sensor Dish from their Planetary Sensor Dome.
Good Point.
Since ships can use sensors to detect objects behind them, it makes no sense that the ships in infrastructure would impede sensor data or that the FOV was purposely limited to prevent feedback from the ships own systems. The sensor dome on the top of the saucer would definitely be capable of a 360 degree FOV.
One of the best variations I’ve seen
https://forums.scifi-meshes.com/discussion/comment/2036646#Comment_2036646
That needed to be on Picard.
https://forums.scifi-meshes.com/discussion/comment/2036646#Comment_2036646
That needed to be on Picard.
Great detailed model!
It's cool, but the Nacelles are a bit too similar to the Excelsior Refit IMO.
They wouldn't have used that design in PIC, unless it was one of the museum ships. They only wanted newer classes for 2401-era Starfleet.
I love all the greebles and details. It's a unique style different to the sleek smooth TOS and TNG eras but not quite abramsverse either. I like it!
