Fortunately, those rank titles aren't canon unless used on the show.
2399 Starfleet commbadge close-up
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Here's the PICARD Command Rank PIPS...
Can we assume that the 2 star fleet admiral is a typo and should be rear admiral?
Did we see the combadge with the gold backdrop when Raffi spoke to Captain "Emmy"? Anyone get a screenie of that scene of the captain?
Good shot of the uniform.
yeah, the more we see it, the less cheap it looks compared to the way it looked in the pilot. there's actually black piping around the division color shoulders.
the prop master specifically said the combadges are chrome and charcoal.
I thought we established weeks ago that the badges were chrome / grey and that there was black piping under the colored shoulder yoke of the uniform top?
That piping is also viable in the STO version of the uniform.
According to the prop 'Museum' on the Star Trek Cruise, 5 admiral pips are unique to the Starfleet CIC in the Picard era.
http://blog.trekcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/8.jpg
According to the prop 'Museum' on the Star Trek Cruise, 5 admiral pips are unique to the Starfleet CIC in the Picard era.
http://blog.trekcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/8.jpg
Here's the PICARD Command Rank PIPS...
I think we have to take the flag officer rank nomenclature with a pinch of salt. For sure, it looks like it was put together by someone who just doesn't understand the basics of naval ranks. If it's mentioned at all on-screen (and there's a good chance it won't be...) then I suspect they'll likely iron out the inconsistencies in that list. It's worth remembering that a lot of stuff from the display folder he's showing in the video is conceptual stuff and not necessarily the finished article.
Commodore is now clearly established and fixed (which at least puts that argument to bed) and the Commander-in-Chief wearing the five-pip bar (the first time we have seen one on-screen) does at least make sense, even if the exact rank title is not established. In this era, that five-pip insignia could be unique and specific to the C-in-C or there may be other senior officers with the rank of Fleet Admiral; it doesn't really matter and I doubt it will ever be confirmed on-screen one way or the other.
Overall, however, I rather like the chrome and charcoal ('cos I guess that's what we should call it from now on!) look for the combadge and I do think it's a pretty nice update of the AGT "future" badge from TNG. In fact, i many ways, I think it's a much better, sleeker design than the AGT badge. I also really like the fact that the pips and the flag officer bars have been updated to match. I like the trapezoid shape of the bars and the way that links to the details on the uniform top and I very much like the way they have carried over the chrome and charcoal from the badge to the rank bars; it adds a nice consistent look to the whole thing.
For those interested, the TrekCore article on the "Starfleet Musem" aboard the Star Trek Cruise is here:
http://blog.trekcore.com/2020/03/explore-star-trek-props-picard-discovery-cruise-museum/
I hadn't seen this before I wrote my previous post, but picture 7/18 in the gallery shows the caption card that accompanies the 2390s Starfleet badge and insignia -- and this does indeed suggest that the five-pip bar is unique and specific to the position of Starfleet Commander-in-Chief.
I have no idea what source of information they used when putting the display together and therefore how accurate (or not) this may be, but I guess this could have come from the production team...?
http://blog.trekcore.com/2020/03/explore-star-trek-props-picard-discovery-cruise-museum/
I hadn't seen this before I wrote my previous post, but picture 7/18 in the gallery shows the caption card that accompanies the 2390s Starfleet badge and insignia -- and this does indeed suggest that the five-pip bar is unique and specific to the position of Starfleet Commander-in-Chief.
I have no idea what source of information they used when putting the display together and therefore how accurate (or not) this may be, but I guess this could have come from the production team...?
Both versions of BSG had similar issues with their rank devices. It’s something that should be relatively important to the costume design folks to get right for continuity’s sake, but not high on the list of priorities for others on the show.
It’s fairly secondary to the story-telling but, I agree, it’s relatively important background information when your story revolves around a structured organisation with hierarchy and ranks or grades for the characters.
Much easier to establish the background structure and give the writers / directors / actors a clear frame of reference.
In fairness, it looks like they’ve actually done a pretty good job of working this up, even if the flag officer rank titles on that one page were a bit goofy. I suspect that will all get corrected in due course.
Trek has always had script and wardrobe niggles with rank titles and rank insignia, so much so that it’s practically a tradition (!).
Twenty years ago, things like this would have bugged the s**t out of me; these days, real life concerns are waaaaaay more important to me and I just enjoy the episodes for what they are. I still like discussing the minutiae of the uniforms and insignia — but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it...!
Much easier to establish the background structure and give the writers / directors / actors a clear frame of reference.
In fairness, it looks like they’ve actually done a pretty good job of working this up, even if the flag officer rank titles on that one page were a bit goofy. I suspect that will all get corrected in due course.
Trek has always had script and wardrobe niggles with rank titles and rank insignia, so much so that it’s practically a tradition (!).
Twenty years ago, things like this would have bugged the s**t out of me; these days, real life concerns are waaaaaay more important to me and I just enjoy the episodes for what they are. I still like discussing the minutiae of the uniforms and insignia — but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it...!
In TOS Spock was occasionally and accidentally referred to as a "Lieutenant Commander" even when he had full Commander's braids on his sleeves.
Yep, that was one of the very early examples I was thinking of when writing my previous post!
Ummmm did they borrow the Starfleet insignia and badge from this 2011 fan film Star Trek: Phoenix??
The insignia on the biker jackets is the one all over Starfleet HQ banners and holograms, and at 22:49 there's a flashback where they're wearing the modified "All Good Things" badges with the top parts removed, just as in Star Trek: Picard.
The insignia on the biker jackets is the one all over Starfleet HQ banners and holograms, and at 22:49 there's a flashback where they're wearing the modified "All Good Things" badges with the top parts removed, just as in Star Trek: Picard.
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