Trek n' Weed

[SpockWeed]

I started this same thread several years ago and it was a hit.

Which characters would smoke? Which would deal? Would it be legal, or be overlooked like Romulan Ale? What actual references can you recall?

Do you like to watch Trek high?

I would have loved to see Kirk, Spock and Bones light up a fat one by the campfire in STV. And just what was that Iman passed to Kirk in STVI. Kinda looks like a blunt if you ask me. Quark would deal for sure. Emotion Chip Data...




Please keep this Weed and Trek, if you want to discuss the legalization or debate on MJ itself please post on Misc or TNZ and I will happily post my views.

 

[Michael]

Sorry, but I have to roll my eyes at this thread.

 

[Sector 7]

Hopefully, drugs are prohibited for StarFleet personnel. Random drug testing should be a part of SF service.
I sure wouldn't want anyone smoking a blunt to be in charge of the warp drive or transporting me safely to and from anywhere.

 

[BigC]

Hopefully, drugs are prohibited for StarFleet personnel. Random drug testing should be a part of SF service.
I sure wouldn't want anyone smoking a blunt to be in charge of the warp drive or transporting me safely to and from anywhere.

The last pot heads died trying to find Eden..

 

[SpockWeed]

Wow, tough crowd. Maybe you should open your eyes rather than roll them.

Remember Alcohol, which is cleary less harmful that MJ, is used regularly off duty in Trek (most characters hate synthehol), and if a SF member operated a warp drive while drunk, there would be consequences. Trek has a history with alcohol, Scotty, Klingon Blood Wine, etc. Picard drinking illegal Romulan Ale.

It would be very possible that marijuana would be legal in more enlightened times, but a TV show can't really go there due to ratings, censors, etc. Classic Trek pushed the envelope as it was already back then.

 

[Outpost4]

While in college back in the early 1970s, we did bong hits while watching Star Trek in the afternoon. But then, in the early '70s, we did bong hits for the evening news. I remember trying to smoke a joint while taking a shower. Now that's tough.

 

[CaptainStoner]

I did a longer post but forgot this forum dumps your login after around 5 minutes. Highly illogical.

Well here's my TNG take

Picard: not since his academy daze
Riker: never onboard; on vacation is another story
Beverly: pretty much anti-drug
Wesley: he was a good kid before he ran off with that Traveller weirdo. Next thing you know he's tried every hallucinogen he can find, and the Traveller as "opened him up" in many ways.
Troi: same as Riker, except she can prescribe it.
Reg Barclay: has a script from Troi, vaporizes three times daily.
Geordi: too straight laced, even on vacation. not his cup o' tea.
Worf: avoids weed with contempt. A klingon in the depths of a laughing fit and munchie binge is a sad, depraved thing.
Data: has a Cheech&Chong subroutine.
Tasha: no, it gives her flashbacks to her coke and heroin days. Poor Tasha.

 

[Sci]

A truly enlightened society would never make it illegal for someone to own or use a drug, but would make it illegal to engage in activities whilst under that drug's influence that would harm or potentially harm others. So I imagine Starfleet officers can smoke a joint if they want -- but they damn well better be sober when their duty shift begins.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

Sorry, but I have to roll my eyes at this thread.

Agreed. Star Trek pot heads unite! Give me a break.

 

[TeutonicNights]

Odo can become a bong and smoke himself.
And that Klingon incense Torres lights in her quarters is highly suspicious.
And Kirk picks up Iman's Blunt in STVI almost as though he hopes it is weed, now that he had arrived in the official shithole of the universe.

 

[shatastrophic]

Data: has a Cheech&Chong subroutine.
Tasha: no, it gives her flashbacks to her coke and heroin days. Poor Tasha.

This is hilarious!Anyhow my take:

No Body on Enterprise, they were a bunch of squares.

TOS-If you couldn't go to hydroponics, then Bones would've been the dealer. Spock never smoked, well maybe once but found it illogical. Uhura smoked more than anyone else. Kirk did in his youth but not as Captain, too many things to worry about. Scotty liked his whiskey so he didn't. I see Chekov as the one with excuses about not having enough credits thus forcing Bones to always have to front him product. Now that we know, Sulu was in to other things.

TNG- If you couldn't go to hydroponics, then Wesley would've been the dealer. His mom was chief of medical, he had access. Worf did to relax after combat on the holodeck. Picard did up until command of the Stargazer. Once again, the whole captain thing. I see Geordi as the one with excuses about not having enough credits thus forcing Wesley to always have to front him product. Of course emotion Chip Data did-I mean come on! Before then it had no effect on Data. Deanna couldn't because of her telepathic capibilties, she becomes way to paranoid to hang out with. Riker doesn't except when on Risa but used to grow his own shit in Alaska. Definatley Ro-Laren! But she would always do it in the bathroom causing the fire supression systems to activate.

DS9- I see Quark pulling in suppliers, but spreading it thru the station was all Jake Sisko. Of course Worf. Jadzia did but Ezri doesn't. Odo can't because it over relaxes him and causes him to revert into his gellatinous state at the wrong times. Dukat and Damar did all the time. Ben Sisko doesn't, but Ben Sisko's dad does!

Voyager-Mother Freakin' Tom Paris. With all the shit going on all he wants to do is sit in front of the TV.

Star Trek 5:
Kirk: "Even though I was falling (inhale, cough, cough, gag) aah-er I knew I wasn't going to die."
McCoy: "Gimme that! (inhale, cough, inhale, cough, exhale, inhale, cough) What do you mean? (cough) I though he was the only who is immortal."
Kirk: "Who gave you that?"
McCoy: (cough) "Uhura, here.."
Kirk: " What were we talking about? (inhale, cough, big inhale, cough) Oh, i knew I wouldn't die (long exhale) because the 2 of you were with me. (cough)"

I miss the days long ago when I did smoke pot. But I had to grow up. Not to say that grown-ups don't, but in order for "me" to grow up I had to stop.

 

[JNG]

It would be very possible that marijuana would be legal in more enlightened times

It would be more possible that enlightened people of the future, where crime and poverty are things of the past blah blah etc., wouldn't want to screw with their perceptions, take health risks, hide from reality, and so forth by using drugs.

Judging from what happened to the original City of the Edge of Forever script, Roddenberry was clearly against this idea too, so regardless of your pro-drug feelings , I feel that it is safe to say that none of the characters would do this and it wouldn't be considered OK if they did.

P.S.

 

[shatastrophic]

People smoke weed for different reasons. Whatever the reasons are, smoking pot is used as a way to cope with things. To cope with pain, or as mood-enhancer. In the 23rd/24th centuries with medical technology what it is, and with everything being a utopia there wouldn't be any pot smoking. It's not that it would be considered wrong, there's just no longer a reason for it. There would be no reason for any drugs. All of the societal problems that exist today that steer a person into thinking they are opressed, thus leading them into needing something to help cope, won't exist.

Drinking is still around of course, but they developed synthehol. From time to time you hear a character has a special bottle of something put away that happens to be real alcohol. Hell, Damar used drinking as a way to cope with power, his people's situation, and to cope with Weyoun. But keep in mind the act of drinking, the phyiscal act of putting a glass to your mouth, is as normal as drinking a glass of water. Therefore you are not infringing on anyone when doing it at social/professional occasions. Pot is smoked, whether out of a pipe, or a joint, or a bong. It has to be ignited to create smoke which is inhaled then exhaled. This is infringing on others at social/professional functions. This is one reason it is socially and professionally unacceptable now, just as cigarettes, and I think it will continue to be on starships. Because of this, health enlightenment, and living in paradise no character in Star trek would be a weed smoker.

But what is up at all the eye rolling, if you don have any input other than you being offended by something then don't post on this thread. I love that everybody's 2 cents on the subject is eye rolling. I don't show up to churches on Sunday and tell Christians they are wrong. There are several other threads you might enjoy on the BBS if not this one.

 

[TeutonicNights]

Picard's brother is a drug dealer tbqh.

 

[Chris3123]

Drugs are still bad in the 24th century, m'kay?

 

[entfan4ever]

Odo can become a bong and smoke himself.

This actually *did* make me LOL! Good one!

 

[TeutonicNights]

Guinan: "Look, Wesley. This is all I'm goin' to say about drugs: stay away from them. There's a time and place for everything, and it's called, 'Starfleet Academy' Do you understand?"

 

[T'Leisha]

I doubt very much, that narcotics would be a part of any truly utopian society. It simply wouldnt be necessary.
When i watch Star Trek and see people drinking/getting drunk, i see it as a reflection of today. It reflects upon the current legal status of alcohol, and the fact that in our society, going out for the occasional drink is socially acceptable.
Drinking and drug use has been present in human society practically forever. The more that society advances, the less prevalent the act/depictions of the act become. Practically everything in Star Trek is influenced by todays society, and this is where the depictions of alcohol use come from. I think, if we ever do reach this roddenberry-esque enlightened future- Alcohol would've gone the way of cigarettes and drugs.
Unfortunately very few realise the fact that regardless of its status and how acceptable it is, alcohol is still a narcotic. Because its ingrained so deeply into our society it is simply just, normal.
As for the weed issue.. I just figured that this thread was a joke when i read it, i mean, are you serious?
My brother smokes weed, over the years he has become increasingly paranoid, and well.. stupid. He is currently out on bail, after he got in a fight with another young.. idiot, and bit him. Apparently the other fellow had been following him. Drug fueled paranoia really isnt funny.

It makes me laugh a little when he says that he still thinks weed is safe.
In the long term, it can cause serious mental health issues. Drugs mess with your head, and i cant believe the absolute stupidity of those who honestly believe otherwise.

Im 21 years old. I smoked cigarettes between the ages of 13 and 20. I had a few drinks as a naive 14 year old but it never particularly interested me. I smoked weed between the ages of 13-16. I liked it alot, and thats the worst part.
What can i say? I used to be stupid.

Those things are in the past. I dont drink. I dont smoke. I dont smoke weed.

I do drink alot of coffee though, but even then, i dont like what it does to me.

 

[Sector 7]

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, I see voices of reason in the crowd. T'Leisha, I too have a brother like yours. He is 44 now. Reading your post sounded so eerily familiar. It brought back many memories of long-winded sermons on the conspiracy against pot. He drifts from job to job... still clinging to his pot.

I'm sorry you have been through this, but I'm also glad you found your way back to the real world. Many best wishes for you.

 

[Anthony Sabre]

I can see Jadzia getting high.