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BBC release Episode One Prologue

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0326qkd

Series 9 prologue ...... Oooh mysterious

And not region locked. Cool

Now why does that look so damn good? Yet I bet the series won't be as good but it's Doctor Who so I will watch it....

There's a 20 second episode 1 clip too with a Dalek in it. What the hell is Maximum Extermination? Does it have settings?
 
I was just coming to post that. :)

I thought it was strange. I can see that it's supposed to be unsettling, with the funereal background music and the actors certainly try to give it that tone, but then in Capaldi's dialogue he's given obvious joke lines that he's trying to play with gravitas. And I'm not sure the reprise of a Hugh Grant line from "The Curse of the Fatal Death" was a good idea, Moffat.

Since the first story involves Daleks and we know it involves Daleks, it's pretty easy to figure out who has summoned the Doctor, who that mysterious figure's agents are, etc. I think it probably would have been better for Moffat to spell that out than to foist a false mystery on the viewer in this three minute clip. The only important mystery, truly, is what the disc is and who will get it; yes, the latest trailer gives that game away, but I think it would have been better to be explicit about the Daleks to heighten the mystery about the disc.

One of Moffat's weaker minisodes, imho.
 
I was just coming to post that. :)

I thought it was strange. I can see that it's supposed to be unsettling, with the funereal background music and the actors certainly try to give it that tone, but then in Capaldi's dialogue he's given obvious joke lines that he's trying to play with gravitas. And I'm not sure the reprise of a Hugh Grant line from "The Curse of the Fatal Death" was a good idea, Moffat.

Since the first story involves Daleks and we know it involves Daleks, it's pretty easy to figure out who has summoned the Doctor, who that mysterious figure's agents are, etc. I think it probably would have been better for Moffat to spell that out than to foist a false mystery on the viewer in this three minute clip. The only important mystery, truly, is what the disc is and who will get it; yes, the latest trailer gives that game away, but I think it would have been better to be explicit about the Daleks to heighten the mystery about the disc.

One of Moffat's weaker minisodes, imho.


But the way the Dalek spoke in the other clip..

Do they really have settings like "minimum extermination" and he said "maximum extermination"

Things like that make the Daleks a big fat joke.
 
But the way the Dalek spoke in the other clip..

Do they really have settings like "minimum extermination" and he said "maximum extermination"

Things like that make the Daleks a big fat joke.

The thing to remember about the Daleks is that they're pulpish, over-the-top, Dan Dare-type villains. That's how Terry Nation wrote them, that's how Moffat writes them. Other writers have done subtle, interesting things with them -- and Moffat has, too, on occasion, like with Dalek-Oswin -- but in broad strokes they're shouty 1950s B-movie sci-fi villains who would twirl their mustaches if they had them.
 
But the way the Dalek spoke in the other clip..

Do they really have settings like "minimum extermination" and he said "maximum extermination"

Things like that make the Daleks a big fat joke.

The thing to remember about the Daleks is that they're pulpish, over-the-top, Dan Dare-type villains. That's how Terry Nation wrote them, that's how Moffat writes them. Other writers have done subtle, interesting things with them -- and Moffat has, too, on occasion, like with Dalek-Oswin -- but in broad strokes they're shouty 1950s B-movie sci-fi villains who would twirl their mustaches if they had them.


That's pretty much true..

The aliens in Flatline were scarier then Daleks
 
Not Moffat's best prologue. But finally we're given something self-contained to digest and not just another mini-trailer showing a remix of the same footage we've seen since July.

BTW, did anyone notice the interview video with Waris Hussein? It's cool to see one of the original directors from 50 years ago talk about the new show. And I bet Capaldi peppered him with questions. :lol:
 
I was just coming to post that. :)

I thought it was strange. I can see that it's supposed to be unsettling, with the funereal background music and the actors certainly try to give it that tone, but then in Capaldi's dialogue he's given obvious joke lines that he's trying to play with gravitas. And I'm not sure the reprise of a Hugh Grant line from "The Curse of the Fatal Death" was a good idea, Moffat.

Since the first story involves Daleks and we know it involves Daleks, it's pretty easy to figure out who has summoned the Doctor, who that mysterious figure's agents are, etc. I think it probably would have been better for Moffat to spell that out than to foist a false mystery on the viewer in this three minute clip. The only important mystery, truly, is what the disc is and who will get it; yes, the latest trailer gives that game away, but I think it would have been better to be explicit about the Daleks to heighten the mystery about the disc.

One of Moffat's weaker minisodes, imho.


But the way the Dalek spoke in the other clip..

Do they really have settings like "minimum extermination" and he said "maximum extermination"

Things like that make the Daleks a big fat joke.

Regular extermination leaves a body. Maximum extermination leaves only ash.

What happened to the Master at the beginning of the McGann TV movie - that's maximum extermination. Death beyond the possibility of regeneration.
 
I liked the prologue. It was mysterious enough to grab my interest, but it also wasn't overly grim. Even after my extreme disappointment with Series 8, I'm super excited for Series 9. Hopefully it will be a big improvement.
 
She was either talking about the Master (Missy) or Davros. Since she said 'his agents' I would lean towards Davos.
 
Supreme Dalek: YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID DOCTOOOOR! BECAUSE WE WILL EXTERMINATE YOU!

Doctor: ..

Supreme Dalek: DIDNT YOU UNDERSTAAND? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINAAAATE!

Doctor: Yawn!

Number Two: Ahem..

Supreme Dalek: YES, WHAT IS IT, NUMBER TWO?

Number Two: This is the twelveth Doctor you encounter, when has the guy last been afraid of regular extermination? that shit really does not work anymore in this day and age.

Supreme Dalek: [stunned for a second] WELL THEN, DOCTOR. IN THAT CASE. BE AFRAID CAUSE WE WILL USE [raises gunstick to eyestalk] MAAAXIIMUUM EXTERMINAAATION!

Number Two: [facepalm]
 
Supreme Dalek: YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID DOCTOOOOR! BECAUSE WE WILL EXTERMINATE YOU!

Doctor: ..

Supreme Dalek: DIDNT YOU UNDERSTAAND? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINAAAATE!

Doctor: Yawn!

Number Two: Ahem..

Supreme Dalek: YES, WHAT IS IT, NUMBER TWO?

Number Two: This is the twelveth Doctor you encounter, when has the guy last been afraid of regular extermination? that shit really does not work anymore in this day and age.

Supreme Dalek: [stunned for a second] WELL THEN, DOCTOR. IN THAT CASE. BE AFRAID CAUSE WE WILL USE [raises gunstick to eyestalk] MAAAXIIMUUM EXTERMINAAATION!

Number Two: [facepalm]



That is perfect.

It's like the Cybermen they do "maximum deletion" They even had it in the script.
 
I liked it. I don't think I understood what they were talking about, though, but I liked the acting involved, the look and the return of the same Priestess from Night of the Doctor. Even though it, again, looks as if Moffat's subconsciously trying to shove the Warrior into our faces since Day of... , I really did like seeing Karn again.

We'll see how it goes from there.
 
I wonder what this says of the Sisters.. Are they immortal? From the Doctor's perspective it's been at LEAST a millenium since he first met Ohila, just as the Time War was getting serious for him. Timey Wimey and all that, but my impression was that certain more advanced species generally stayed in the same-ish temporal step with each other, such that they do tend to meet in the same order.

Also, the "Making of" clip confirms that Ohila will be in the episode proper, as they show her filming a scene which wasn't in the prologue. I wonder how they get around.

Also, upon rewatching Series 8 and now this clip, I've come to realize how much better the Doctor looks in his "street magician" outfit over his "stage magician" clothes. It just hangs on Capaldi's frame better and fills out his skinny frame somewhat... While I don't think it's very Doctorey as wardrobe goes (what is though, really?), I've come to prefer Twelve's costume variations over his original outfit.

Keeping judgement for when we see him in the upcoming burgundy coat and / or wierd check trousers, in motion.

Mark
 
A bit silly of the BBC to release a trailer showing what the disc is and who it's going to before releasing this.
 
I wonder what this says of the Sisters.. Are they immortal? From the Doctor's perspective it's been at LEAST a millenium since he first met Ohila, just as the Time War was getting serious for him. Timey Wimey and all that, but my impression was that certain more advanced species generally stayed in the same-ish temporal step with each other, such that they do tend to meet in the same order.

Also, the "Making of" clip confirms that Ohila will be in the episode proper, as they show her filming a scene which wasn't in the prologue. I wonder how they get around.

Also, upon rewatching Series 8 and now this clip, I've come to realize how much better the Doctor looks in his "street magician" outfit over his "stage magician" clothes. It just hangs on Capaldi's frame better and fills out his skinny frame somewhat... While I don't think it's very Doctorey as wardrobe goes (what is though, really?), I've come to prefer Twelve's costume variations over his original outfit.

Keeping judgement for when we see him in the upcoming burgundy coat and / or wierd check trousers, in motion.

Mark
The Elixir from the flame gives them immortality
 
It was ok. I was hoping for a little bit more, but with the series coming back next week I guess they didn't want to overdo it. I do wish though the Sisterhood was actually featured in an actual episode. Maybe they know where Gallifry is, which I hope is the arc this season.
 
The Elixir from the flame gives them immortality[/QUOTE]

Oh THAT. Must say though, now that we've effectively seen it does work, the sisters age much better than Gallifreyans. :)

Mark
 
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