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What order to watch Star Trek with all the timelines?

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I have seen all of TOS, a few TOS movies, all TNG, am in season 5 of DS9, some scattered episodes of voyager, First Contact, maybe Generations, season 1 of enterprise, and am in season 2 of enterprise now, having seen the Borg episode. This episode clearly will alter the rest of the timeline, including everything in TNG (at least pertaining to the Borg, and presumably everything else will be impacted somehow). I have not seen any of what I have heard called the "rebooted" movies or Discovery, nor the other TNG movies I didn't mention.

I've seen some mentions here of timelines and canon, which of course I haven't read because of the spoilers. For me there's pretty much one timeline (until that Borg episode in ENT). So how should this affect my order of watching star trek? My plan was to continue ENT and go straight to discovery, but now I'm wondering if it makes more sense to finish DS9 and voyager, and basically go in production order.

In other words if Enterprise (or Discovery) basically wipes out all the events from DS9/voyager (because of changes that happened in the past), then maybe I had better watch DS9/VOY first before finding out they didn't happen.
 
ENT doesn't wipe out DS9 or VOY. Neither does DSC.

But after TOS and TNG, it doesn't matter which order you watch DS9, VOY, or ENT in since, for the most part, they don't have much to do with each other.
 
I try to go with release order (which can be somewhat different from strict production order) because producers usually focus on making their stories work for the first-time viewer, otherwise it’s easy to introduce unintended or arguable spoilers. That way you also receive more of a context for what was released later. I can’t responsibly recommend watching ENT, VGR or DSC, though; that makes sense if you’re a canon completist (which I am), but otherwise I’d move on to something better that’s not ST.
 
Enterprise
TOS
TAS
I
II
III
IV
V
VI
TNG
DS9
VII (somewhere in the middle of season 2 or 3 of DS9)
VIII (somewhere in the middle of season 5 of DS9)
IX
VOY
X
Star Trek '09
 
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Release order is probably best.

Star Trek (2009) reboots TOS in an alternate reality. The three movies are their own thing and you can watch them pretty much whenever.

Picard continues the TNG universe following the events that spawn the Star Trek (2009) timeline, proving nothing is erased.

Discovery is set 10 years before TOS (erm... to begin with) but is kind of a partial reboot, with a look and a feel much more like the Kelvin Universe movies even though it's set in the regular timeline.
 
Main Universe:
- Enterprise: "Broken Bow" to "Bound" (release order)
- Enterprise: "Demons" and "Terra Prime"
- Short Trek: "The Girl Who Made the Stars"
- Short Trek: "The Brightest Star"
- Short Trek: "Q&A"
- TOS: "The Cage"
- Discovery: "The Vulcan Hello" to "New Eden" (release order)
- Short Trek: "Runaway"
- Short Trek: "The Escape Artist"
- Discovery: "Point of Light" to "Such Sweet Sorrow" (release order)
- Short Trek: "The Trouble with Edward"
- Short Trek: "Ask Not"
- TOS: "Where No Man Has Gone Before" to "Space Seed" (production order)
- Short Trek: "Ephraim and Dot"
- TOS: "This Side of Paradise" to "The Tholian Web" (production order)

Mirror Universe only:
- Enterprise: "In a Mirror, Darkly"

Main Universe again:
- TOS: "For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky" to "Turnabout Intruder" (production order)
- TAS (production order)
- The Motion Picture
- The Wrath of Khan
- The Search for Spock
- The Voyage Home
- The Final Frontier
- The Undiscovered Country
-
TNG: "Encounter at Farpoint" to "Chain of Command" (release order)
- DS9: "Emissary" to "Babel" (release order)
- TNG: "Ship in a Bottle" and "Aquiel"
- DS9: "Captive Pursuit"
- TNG: "Face of the Enemy"
- DS9: "Q-Less"
- TNG: "Tapestry"
- DS9: "Dax"
- TNG: "Birthright"
- DS9: "The Passenger" to "The Nagus" (release order)
- TNG: "Starship Mine" and "Lessons"
- DS9: "Vortex" to "The Storyteller" (release order)
- TNG: "The Chase" to "Suspicions" (release order)
- DS9: "Progress"
- TNG: "Rightful Heir"
- DS9: "If Wishes Were Horses"
- TNG: "Second Chances"
- DS9: "The Forsaken" and "Dramatis Personae"
- TNG: "Timescape"
- DS9: "Duet"
- TNG: "Descent"
- DS9: "In the Hands of the Prophets"
- TNG: "Liaisons"
- DS9: "The Homecoming" to "The Siege" (release order)
- TNG: "Interface" and "Gambit"
- DS9: "Invasive Procedures"
- TNG: "Phantasms"
- DS9: "Cardassians"
- TNG: "Dark Page"
- DS9: "Melora"
- TNG: "Attached"
- DS9: "Rules of Acquisition"
- TNG: "Force of Nature"
- DS9: "Necessary Evil"
- TNG: "Inheritance"
- DS9: "Second Sight"
- TNG: "Parallels"
- DS9: "Sanctuary" and "Rivals"
- TNG: "The Pegasus"
- ENT: "These Are the Voyages..."
- DS9: "The Alternate"
- TNG: "Homeward" and "Sub Rosa"
- DS9: "Armageddon Game"
- TNG: "Lower Decks"
- DS9: "Whispers"
- TNG: "Thine Own Self"
- DS9: "Paradise"
- TNG: "Masks"
- DS9: "Shadowplay"
- TNG: "Eye of the Beholder"
- DS9: "Playing God"
- TNG: "Genesis"
- DS9: "Profit and Loss"
- TNG: "Journey's End"
- DS9: "Blood Oath"
- TNG: "Firstborn"
- DS9: "The Maquis"
- TNG: "Bloodlines" and "Emergence"
- DS9: "The Wire"
- TNG: "Preemptive Strike"
- DS9: "Crossover"
- TNG: "All Good Things..."
- DS9: "The Collaborator" to "The Abandoned" (release order)
- Voyager: "Caretaker"
- DS9: "Civil Defense" and "Meridian"
- Voyager: "Parallax"
- DS9: "Defiant" to "Past Tense" (release order)
- Voyager: "Time and Again"
- DS9: "Life Support" and "Heart of Stone"
- Voyager: "Phage"
- DS9: "Destiny"
- Voyager: "The Cloud"
- DS9: "Prophet Motive" and "Visionary"
- Voyager: "Eye of the Needle"
- DS9: "Distant Voices" and "Through the Looking Glass"
- Voyager: "Ex Post Facto" and "Emanations"
- Generations
- Voyager: "Prime Factors" to "Heroes and Demons" (release order)
- DS9: "Improbable Cause" and "The Die is Cast"
- Voyager: "Cathexis" and "Faces"
- DS9: "Explorers"
- Voyager: "Jetrel"
- DS9: "Family Business"
- Voyager: "Learning Curve"
- DS9: "Shakaar" and "Facets"
- Voyager: "Projections" and "Elogium"
- DS9: "The Adversary"
- Voyager: "Twisted" to "Non Sequitur" (release order)
- DS9: "The Way of the Warrior" and "Hippocratic Oath"
- VOY: "Parturition"
- DS9: "The Visitor" to "Rejoined" (release order)
- Voyager: "Persistence of Vision"
- DS9: "Little Green Men"
- Voyager: "Tattoo"
- DS9: "Starship Down"
- Voyager: "Cold Fire"
- DS9: "The Sword of Kahless"
- Voyager: "Maneuvers" and "Resistance"
- DS9: "Our Man Bashir" to "Paradise Lost" (release order)
- Voyager: "Prototype" and "Death Wish"
- DS9: "Crossfire"
- Voyager: "Alliances"
- DS9: "Return to Grace"
- Voyager: "Threshold"
- DS9: "Sons of Mogh"
- Voyager: "Meld" and "Dreadnought"
- DS9: "Bar Association" and "Accession"
- Voyager: "Lifesigns" to "Deadlock" (release order)
- DS9: "Rules of Engagement"
- Voyager: "Innocence"
- DS9: "Hard Time" to "The Muse" (release order)
- Voyager: "The Thaw"
- DS9: "For the Cause"
- Voyager: "Tuvix" and "Resolutions"
- DS9: "The Quickening" to "Broken Link"
- Voyager: "Basics" to "Flashback" (release order)
- DS9: "Apocalypse Rising"
- Voyager: "The Chute"
- DS9: "The Ship"
- Voyager: "Remember"
- DS9: "Looking for par'Mach in All the Wrong Places" to "Trials and Tribble-ations" (release order)
- Voyager: "The Swarm"
- DS9: "The Assignment"
- Voyager: "Future's End"
- DS9: "Let He Who Is Without Sin..." and "Things Past"
- Voyager: "Warlord"
- DS9: "The Ascent"
- Voyager: "The Q and the Grey" and "Macrocosm"
- DS9: "Rapture" and "The Darkness and the Light"
- Voyager: "Alter Ego" and "Fair Trade"
- DS9: "The Begotten"
- Voyager: "Blood Fever"
- First Contact
- DS9: "For the Uniform"
- Voyager: "Coda"
- DS9: "In Purgatory's Shadow" and "By Inferno's Light"
- Voyager: "Unity" and "Rise"
- DS9: "Doctor Bashir, I Presume"
- Voyager: "Darkling" and "Favorite Son"
- DS9: "A Simple Investigation" and "Business as Usual"
- Voyager: "Before and After"
- DS9: "Ties of Blood and Water" and "Ferengi Love Songs"
- Voyager: "Real Life"
- DS9: "Soldiers of the Empire"
- Voyager: "Distant Origin"
- DS9: "Children of Time"
- Voyager: "Displaced"
- DS9: "Blaze of Glory"
- Voyager: "Worst Case Scenario"
- DS9: "Empok Nor" to "Call to Arms"
- Voyager: "Scorpion" to "Day of Honor" (release order)
- DS9: "A Time to Stand" to "Sacrifice of Angels" (release order)
- Voyager: "Revulsion" to "Year of Hell" (release order)
- DS9: "You Are Cordially Invited" and "Resurrection"
- Voyager: "Random Thoughts"
- DS9: "Statistical Probabilities"
- Voyager: "Concerning Flight" and "Mortal Coil"
- DS9: "The Magnificent Ferengi" and "Waltz"
- Voyager: "Waking Moments" and "Message in a Bottle"
- DS9: "Who Mourns for Morn?" and "One Little Ship"
- Voyager: "Hunters"
- DS9: "Far Beyond the Stars"
- Voyager: "Prey"
- DS9: "Honor Among Thieves"
- Voyager: "Retrospect"
- DS9: "Change of Heart"
- Voyager: "The Killing Game"
- DS9: "Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night" and "Inquisition"
- Voyager: "Vis à Vis"
- DS9: "In the Pale Moonlight"
- Voyager: "The Omega Directive"
- DS9: "His Way"
- Voyager: "Unforgettable"
- DS9: "The Reckoning" and "Valiant"
- Voyager: "Demon"
- DS9: "Profit and Lace"
- Voyager: "One"
- DS9: "Time's Orphan"
- Voyager: "Hope and Fear"
- DS9: "The Sound of Her Voice" to "Afterimage" (release order)
- Voyager: "Night"
- DS9: "Take Me Out to the Holosuite"
- Voyager: "Drone"
- DS9: "Chrysalis"
- Voyager: "Extreme Risk"
- DS9: "Treachery, Faith and the Great River"
- Voyager: "In the Flesh"
- DS9: "Once More Unto the Breach"
- Voyager: "Once Upon a Time"
- DS9: "The Siege of AR-558"
- Voyager: "Nothing Human"
- DS9: "Covenant"
- Voyager: "Timeless"
- DS9: "It's Only a Paper Moon"
- Insurrection
- Voyager: "Thirty Days"
- DS9: "Prodigal Daughter"
- Voyager: "Infinite Regress"
- DS9: "The Emperor's New Cloak"
- Voyager: "Counterpoint"
- DS9: "Field of Fire"
- Voyager: "Gravity"
- DS9: "Chimera"
- Voyager: "Latent Image"
- DS9: "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges"
- Voyager: "Bride of Chaotica!"
- DS9: "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang"
- VOY: "The Fight"
- DS9: "Penumbra" to "What You Leave Behind" (release order)
- Voyager: "Bliss" to "Endgame" (release order)
- Nemesis
- Lower Decks (presumably)
- Short Trek: "Children of Mars"

Kelvin Timeline:
- Star Trek (2009)
- Into Darkness
- Beyond

Main Universe, redux:
- Picard (release order)
- Voyager: "Living Witness"
- Discovery Season 3 (presumably)
- Short Trek: "Calypso"
 
IMHO, chronological release order - though it's also true that "a product of its time" prevailing, there will be reflections of existing culture or ideals being played out. These can easily be misinterpreted.

And the other fact is true, not everyone will like every series and even in a consensus (e.g. "The Trouble with Tribbles is the best episode of all-time!!!!!!" or "The Alternative Factor is pointless!") one might disagree for whatever reason(s). Even if a show revamps its format (DS9 wasn't bad but season 4 onward definitely has a tighter feel... and VOY and ENT both had retoolings done for their 4th years...) one may or may not like them despite that.

It's been stated by production staff in news articles that "Discovery" is in the same universe as Kirk. A lot of people will say it's in the Kelvin timeline or another one and I don't disagree - based on what I'd seen. It's also been stated by production staff in news articles that "Picard" is not a sequel, yet a lot of people are going to watch it as if it were. IMHO, with the episodes I'd seen, it's best to watch it as its own thing and not a sequel.

The other fun part is, notice between the shows not just technological changes but social mores of the time peeping through... as well as reading up on events of the times in question... and other things, even how the audience is treated... There are similarities but there are differences. :D
 
"Regenerations" didn't alter the timeline. In fact, I found they not only were careful to preserve the timeline, they actually provided an explanation as to how some people were aware of the Borg before "Q, Who?" Before "Regenerations it was a bit ambiguous as to when Starfleet and some scientists knew at least rumors about the Borg before the Enterprise encountered them in "Q, Who?" Now we have an explanation as to why that might be. So I found it actually reinforced things.

I'm currently watching Star Trek in mostly timeline order. I finished up Enterprise about a year ago and have watched Discovery as it has come out on Blu-Ray (I don't stream). It actually worked out that the first season of Discovery was released at the time I was finishing up with Enterprise so I moved right into Discovery. Then I watched the original series (and season 2 of Discovery when that came out on Blu-Ray) and finished up the original series about 1-2 months ago. Now I'm watching the animated series and next up will be the first 6 movies, then TNG.

Now chances are with 7 years of TNG I seriously doubt I'll be done with those when the first season of Picard inevitably comes out on Blu-Ray (likely a year from now if the pattern holds) and I'm sure I'll watch that when it is released and return to TNG. Then I'll continue from there to DS9 and Voyager (though by that time there is some overlap but I'll stick to the series until they're done). At least that's the plan for now.
 
I'd ask one of those 29th century guys from the USS Relativity to assign all episodes/"realities" a timeline index (if they can compute 'temporal incursion factors' they can probably do that) and then determine the episode watching order based upon that criterion.
 
Enterprise
Discovery
Star trek 09, STID, STB (different timeline)
TOS
TAS
I
II
III
IV
V
VI
TNG
DS9
VII (somewhere in the middle of season 2 or 3 of DS9)
VIII (somewhere in the middle of season 5 of DS9)
IX
VOY
X
Then back to ST09.....
Star Trek Picard
 
Nothing wipes anything out. Officially, everything except the Kelvin Timeline movies takes place in the same single continuity, and even the KT is a "real" part of that continuity, a coexisting parallel in the same way the Mirror Universe is. The differences in continuity are metatextual, adjustments in the way the single reality is interpreted by different storytellers over the decades. There was no timeline shift when James R. Kirk became James T. Kirk or when lithium became dilithium or when Saavik got a new face or when Data suddenly couldn't use contractions after using them routinely for half a season; there was just a change in how the storytellers presented what was intended to be a single consistent reality.

There's a difference between a change that actually happens within the story and a change in how the story is told. The latter should not be mistaken for the former. Countless works of series fiction present themselves a single reality even when they contradict themselves; for instance, Marvel Comics pretending it's had a single consistent timeline since 1961 even though the characters never age and their backstories keep getting rewritten to take place further and further forward in time (e.g. Iron Man's origin being updated from Vietnam to Afghanistan). By the same token, all Star Trek is intended by its creators to take place in the same reality, the same timeline (Kelvin aside), and the inconsistencies are just updates to how it's presented. When something changes, we're supposed to play along with the pretense that it was really that way all along, that the earlier presentation was flawed and the updated version is closer to reality. Kirk's middle initial was always T, the crystals were always dilithium, the first Enterprise was always Archer's, etc.


IMHO, chronological release order - though it's also true that "a product of its time" prevailing, there will be reflections of existing culture or ideals being played out. These can easily be misinterpreted.

Yup. As a rule, the best way to experience a series for the first time is in the order in which it came out. No matter what the internal chronology, the storytelling will reflect the order in which the stories were created in real time, so prequels will be informed by the earlier works they're prequels to. And production/publication order lets you better appreciate the evolution of the narrative. If the internal chronology is different from the release order, then a chronological readthrough or watchthrough can be a good way to revisit the series and get a new experience of it, but there will probably be some jarring incongruities and confusing references to "future" works, so it's usually better if you save that for a return visit rather than making it your first exposure to the series.


It's been stated by production staff in news articles that "Discovery" is in the same universe as Kirk. A lot of people will say it's in the Kelvin timeline or another one and I don't disagree - based on what I'd seen.

It's obviously not in Kelvin, since there are clear differences in continuity. In Discovery, the Enterprise is active under Pike's command in 2256-7; in Kelvin, it isn't even launched until 2258. In Discovery, there's a Federation-Klingon war in 2256-7, whereas in Kelvin, Admiral Marcus says in 2259 that the Federation has only had a few occasional skirmishes with the Klingons and that war is likely in the future but hasn't happened yet.


It's also been stated by production staff in news articles that "Picard" is not a sequel, yet a lot of people are going to watch it as if it were.

They just meant it's not a direct continuation of TNG with the same characters. They didn't mean it isn't in the same universe, because of course it is. It's directly building on story elements from TNG, Nemesis, the 2009 movie, and Voyager. It's undoubtedly in the same continuity.
 
Get all the discs together, take them out of the cases, toss them all in the air, then pick one and watch the episodes on that disc in reverse order.

Rinse and repeat.
 
Yup. As a rule, the best way to experience a series for the first time is in the order in which it came out. No matter what the internal chronology, the storytelling will reflect the order in which the stories were created in real time, so prequels will be informed by the earlier works they're prequels to.

Yeah, I'd recommend that for a first timer as well. The other thing I'd recommend for a first timer is stick with it, particularly with TNG and the other spinoffs through Enterprise. They all were a bit uneven out of the gate but they all got better by the 2nd or 3rd seasons. Of course that's probably the case with most shows. They all take a little time to get going.

This time around I decided to watch the shows in timeline order just as something new to try. But I've watched them all multiple times (well except Discovery) so it's just a different way to watch things.
 
To be fair, I watched West Wing Season 7 before I ever saw West Wing Season 6, and despite how serialized the show was and how the outcome was known to me, I found it very enjoyable. It was like they wrote and filmed a prequel season.
 
To be fair, I watched West Wing Season 7 before I ever saw West Wing Season 6, and despite how serialized the show was and how the outcome was known to me, I found it very enjoyable. It was like they wrote and filmed a prequel season.

Well, the last 3 seasons of TWW are practically a different show from the first 4, because of Aaron Sorkin's departure. And a much inferior show to boot, especially in season 5, IIRC.
 
Well, the last 3 seasons of TWW are practically a different show from the first 4, because of Aaron Sorkin's departure. And a much inferior show to boot, especially in season 5, IIRC.

Season 5 was why I skipped Season 6 in the first place.
 
Short Answer:

A couple of links to sites that attempt to list varios production in order of fictiomal chronology are included.

Long Answer"

In my opinion, a highly episodic dramatic or comedy television series with a lot of episodes should be pictured as happening in many different alternate timelines, many different alternate universes. One should imagine that each episode, except for the ones that are clearly sequels to others, should be thought of as existing in a separate alternate universe of its own. And if the series has a pilot episode which sets up the situation in the series one can assume that each and every episode is a sequel to the pilot episode, and the alternate universe with each and every episode all diverge after the pilot episode.

Thus one doesn't have to consider which episodes are in which alternate universes when deciding on viewing order, but merely accept that most are probably in their ow separate alternate universes and so will probably not affect later episodes.

Here is a link to a list of Star Trek productions in a possible fictional chronological order. Naturally the writer had to make some decisions which some other persons might not agree with. This list only includes Star Trek :Enterprise and productions made before it.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/startrek/st-episodes-1.html

I started a thread with the title: "Which Star Trek Productions are in the Same alternate Universe as Others".

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/whi...iverses-as-others.298962/page-3#post-13162100

Discussing which Star Trek productions are sequels to which productions.

So with TOS and TAS one can start by watching the first pilot "The Cage" (or perhaps omit it) and then the second pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before". and then watch the other TOS and TAS episodes in chronological order.

How do you determine the chronological order of TOS and TAS episodes?

There are three main methods of determining the chronological order of TOS and TAs episodes.

One: Date of first broadcast order. This may have been the first order used by fans.

Two: Production order, found from the production codes or notes of when the episodes were filmed, etc.

Three: Stardate order, from lower to higher stardates. In the first two orders stardates usually get higher but sometimes get lower. Stardate order eliminates that problem, but has the problem that some episodes don't have stardates (non canonical sources provide some missing stardates), and a few other problems.

http://startreklist.blogspot.com/2011/04/list-of-all-star-trek-episodes-sorted.html

A fourth episode order would be in order of seasons, followed by stardate order within seasons. That would eliminate problems like seasons having overlapping stardatee and the problem that the TAS episode "The Magicks of Megs-tu" has a lower and earlier stardate than "Where No Man Has Gone Before". Of course that has the problem of the stardates dropping significantly lower between seasons.

After TOS and TAS the six TOS movies all have the same order by production order, release order, and stardate order, and numbers II, III, IV, V, and VI all seem to happen in that fictional order anyway.

The first season of TNG has the same problem that the production order, broadcast order, and stardate order are all different.

In the second and later seasons of TNG the production order, broadcast order, and stardate order are almost totally identical. So someone can put them in any of those three orders with very little differences between the three orders. There are only a few problems, such as some episodes not having stardates, and "unification Part 2" being produced before "Unification Part 1" because of the availability of Leonard Nimoy.

The same is true with all seven seasons of DS9 and all seven seasons of Voyager; Their production order, broadcast order, and stardate order are usually identical, though of course there area few problems.

The four TNG movies all happen after the end of TNG, during DS9 and/or Voyager, and after Voyager and most people consider watching them where their stardates put them is a good idea, although there are some dissenters.

Star Trek: Enterprise was a prequel series, set about 100 years before TOS. Since it had no stardates, episodes can be viewed in production order or in broadcast order. Some episodes had Earth dates, and naturally those episodes should be viewed in order of their Earth dates. Since the year is never specified as AD or CE, it is possible that the years a ere not given using Anno Domini dating but instead use some other year count. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini

The three Kelvinverse movies start a few years before "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and TOS and may extend into what would be the era of TOS.

Star Trek: Discovery began ten years before TOS and thus a few years after "The Cage" and a few years before the first Kelvinverse movie Star Trek (2009).

And I hear that Star Trek: Picard beings years or decades after TNG, DS9, and , and after the TNG movies.

Star Trek shows started out highly episodic, with only a few episodes sequels to other episodes, and over time began to have more and more story arcs until some of the latest ones are highly serialized. In my opinion, the more episodic a series is, the more probable it is that almost all episodes happen in separate alternate universes of their own. In my opinion, the more serialized a series is, the higher the proportion of episodes will be that happen in the same alternate universe, and thus the higher the proportion of the episodes which would have to be watched in order to understand later episode,s movies and productions.

So if you are asking what movies, episodes, and other productions you need to watch or rewatch in order to understand Star Trek: Picard and/or the third season of Star Trek: Discovery, set centuries in the future, and if you hope that there are hundreds of productions you don't need to watch in order to understand them, I have good news and bad news for you.

The good news is that there are probably hundreds of productions one does not need to rewatch in order to understand Star Trek: Picard and/or the third season of Star Trek: Discovery, set centuries in the future,

The bad news is that I have not yet completed a list of which episodes are necessary to understand future Star Trek productions and which are not. That was one of my goals in creating the thread I mentioned above.
"Which Star Trek Productions are in the Same alternate Universe as Others".

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/whi...iverses-as-others.298962/page-3#post-13162100

But since many users here just assume that all Star Trek productions happen in the same alternate universe, despite the extreme statistical improbability of that being the case, they have not been as helpful as I hoped in providing lists of episodes that are sequels to other episodes and thus happen in the same alternate universe.

It seems clear that all episodes of Star Trek: Voyager (VOY) are sequels to the first episode "Caretaker", all episodes of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (DS9) are sequels to "Emissary", and all episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation" (TNG) are sequels to "Encounter at Farpoint". And VOY is a spin off of DS9 and TNG, and DS9 is a spin off of TNG. Thus all episodes of TNG, are sequels to "Encounter at Farpoint", all episodes of DS9 are sequels to "Encounter at Farpoint" and "Emissary", and all episodes of VOY are sequels to "Encounter at Farpoint" and "Emissary" and "Caretakers".

And probably the majority of episodes of TNG, DS9, and VOY are in separate alternate universes and sequels to only the one, two or three, as the case may be, pilot episodes. But those shows had a number of story arcs including multiple episodes, so that Star Trek: Picard and/or the third season of Star Trek: Discovery, set centuries in the future, should be sequels to tens or possibly hundreds of episodes that are part of story arcs which have been or will be mentioned or significant in those series.

Since all the TNG, DS9, and VOY episodes are sequels to "Encounter at Farpoint", if any TNG, DS9, and VOY episode is a sequel to any TOS era production, "Encounter at Farpoint"must alos be a sequel to that TOS era production, and thus every single TNG, DS9, and VOY episode must be a sequel to that TOS era production,

In my thread https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/whi...iverses-as-others.298962/page-3#post-13162100 in post number 44 I calculated that every single TNG, DS9, and VOY episode must be a sequel to the TOS movies from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, and to about 12 TOS episodes. And I also started working on lists of TNG era episodes that were sequels to others. But there are many more episodes left to do.

Since the three Kelvinverse episodes are supposed to be in an alternate unvives caused by timet ravel, we don't have to suppose that Star Trek: Picard and/or the third season of Star Trek: Discovery, set centuries in the future, is a sequel to any of them.,

As for the two prequel series, Star trek: Enterprise has episodes concerted with a temporal cold war and future time travelers changing history, so there no proof that either Star trek: Enterprise or Star Trek: Discovery is in the same alternate universe as any other series. So some people might claim that there is no need to watch any of their episodes before watching Star trek: Picard, although one w ould have to watch first and second season episodes of star Trek: Discovery before watching the third season of Star Trek: Discovery, set centuries in the future.
 
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