Voyager Hate

[Amaris]

Point taken. There's a reason I, a Star Wars geek, won't go anywhere near Star Wars boards. If you think Star Trek fans can be anti-intellectual...

that's one thing that surprised me. I had never been on a forum before. I never expected any Star Trek fans to be "anti-intellectual".

People are people

Some of us are brilliant. I'm one of us.

Anyway, regarding Voyager, I've been re-re-watching the show, and I've now come upon the last few episodes of season 3, and am about to venture into season 4. My opinion of the series has been elevated significantly, as I've noticed things this time around that I missed before.

I just finished "Distant Origin," in fact, and it reminded me of the Scopes Monkey trial, and the attack on Darwinian evolution by, what was at the time, the supposed moral authority.

I felt for Professor Gegen at the end, that he had to sell out his future, his ideas, his whole life, to save his new friend. He made that sacrifice in a society where his ideas should have been celebrated, not stifled.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Or the audience writing off the series as a total failure 20 minutes into the first episode.

Except for all those folks who stayed with it.

I knew it was coming right off the rails, with fundamental problems with the premise, at some point during the first episode, but I also knew I would stay with it 'til the end due to the strength of my dedication to Trek in general. Starting with TNG (I wasn't old enough for this to be true of TOS, but I saw a lot in reruns), I never willfully missed an episode (my local affiliate's ideas about how to schedule their sports broadcasts to one side ), and I wasn't about to start with Voyager.

There are things I love about Voyager, but it was the first Trek that felt like everyone - from the production staff to the actors - was phoning most of it in, and they killed Trek on TV* because they finally made Trek just as stupid as all of the bullies that ever abused any of us for liking Trek ever said it was. And that is why I hate Voyager.

*Yes, I'm fully aware of Enterprise, but the series just continued the ride to hell on the same trajectory set by Voyager, and I think if we're honest we all know it. Manny Coto tried to pull the ship up in the 4th season just before she hit the ground, bless 'im, but it was too little, too late.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Or the audience writing off the series as a total failure 20 minutes into the first episode.

Except for all those folks who stayed with it.

I knew it was coming right off the rails, with fundamental problems with the premise, at some point during the first episode, but I also knew I would stay with it 'til the end due to the strength of my dedication to Trek in general. Starting with TNG (I wasn't old enough for this to be true of TOS, but I saw a lot in reruns), I never willfully missed an episode (my local affiliate's ideas about how to schedule their sports broadcasts to one side ), and I wasn't about to start with Voyager.

There are things I love about Voyager, but it was the first Trek that felt like everyone - from the production staff to the actors - was phoning most of it in, and they killed Trek on TV* because they finally made Trek just as stupid as all of the bullies that ever abused any of us for liking Trek ever said it was. And that is why I hate Voyager.

*Yes, I'm fully aware of Enterprise, but the series just continued the ride to hell on the same trajectory set by Voyager, and I think if we're honest we all know it. Manny Coto tried to pull the ship up in the 4th season just before she hit the ground, bless 'im, but it was too little, too late.

I found all four series equally well made.

 

[Misfit Toy]

Strawmen, opinions, and baseless assertion. No, though you'll keep repeating them like a broken record, they still will be only your empty opinion, not fact.

The only thing empty is your rebuttal. You haven't refuted anything I've said aside from saying it's just conjecture.

Pointing out that it is conjecture IS refuting what you've said.

And I think this thread has run its course...and it's STILL about 70,000 light years from home.