Those are awesome. That's how I wished Discovery's uniforms would have looked.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Those are awesome. That's how I wished Discovery's uniforms would have looked.
I like the designs. Very nice. What would you want to do with more the Kelvin duty uniforms?
I really liked this idea that someone came up with shortly before ST 09.
Thank ya, they are not finished and rough( The line does not even go ll way down the leg). But, I was trying to blend the two. Really, DSC's base layout is fine, but its too much of one color without any real breaks and the shinny add ones do not help. Strong solid color and as you see, those add on shapes are not bad.
Off to a great start so far. The only thing I would add to them is a TOS style black collar, but otherwise it's a great design.
I like the designs. Very nice. What would you want to do with more the Kelvin duty uniforms?
I really liked this idea that someone came up with shortly before ST 09.
Oh that is a pretty nice one as well. Not sure on those awful duty uniforms, most of the issue honestly is fabric, they simply do not read "Uniform" to me. Beyond ones are better, but still don't really work for me. Hell every other uniform in Beyond is better than that one. Humm, if ya tuck em in, add a belt and a better fabric the beyond ones would be far better IMO
Off to a great start so far. The only thing I would add to them is a TOS style black collar, but otherwise it's a great design.
I did that a while back and only recently even recalled it. I went into my folders to do something and there it was, I find stuff like that fro time to time. Something I started then got busy or distracted and forgot. A black collar might look nice on em really.
I know the feeling. I have tons of projects, some even I forget about. I hope you get chance to finish them one day.
The material is stiffer so it feels more uniform to me. However, I'm trying to imagine the evolution of the uniform too, and make it feel more "uniform" as well as in line with the dress uniforms, which use a lot more gray in the coloring of the body and material.
They simply read as "Sports jersey" to me
It’s certainly a possibility. But because of how is presented, it’s not the most immediate read.
A lot of Discovery's ships are a mess. Some are more evocative of recognizable 22nd and 23rd century designs than others, but at large these starships are an unattractive mess. Apart from the Gagarin and other ships in her class and the Enterprise herself they're tolerable and mediocre at best.
I took a few swings at it, the last one I went with this fast and dirty and unfinished version. It was more a try at fixing the DSC uniforms. I would go with more than one freaking uniform for one, but this could be the Jacked I guess you would call Class A. With Patches and likely rankings on the shoulders, arm or collar. It would also have a shirt under the jacket.
For Duty Uniforms, I would go something like this, although I may add a belt. And If I ever finish this, jumpsuit. Pretty close to the ENT one in cut as it was damned practical.
They all look fabulous. I would have collars on those duty unis though. I've always thought uniforms looked better with collars. Even the monster maroons were lacking without the turtlenecks.
I just deal with the other DSC uniforms. Rank indicators on the Chevron is just unwieldy and functionally poor.
I agree with you in general, though I wouldn't call this "internal consistency" since the only reason this happened is because they were drastically limited in what they could build by practical considerations. Compare, for example, the Type-7 and Type-6 shuttlecraft on the Enterprise and the fact that these two were supposed to have been carried by the same ship... they look NOTHING ALIKE and don't have anything in common except for the overall shape of their side windows. And yet we all know that the only reason the Type-6 even exists is because the set buildings completely fucked the execution of Probert's design concept and instead built a big clunky thing that looked like a minibus.
Indeed, most of the ships we see in the 24th century are actually just recycled 23rd century ships. It wasn't until Yesterday's Enterprise that we finally got a look at another truly modern starship, and it was ONCE AGAIN a poor imitation of a far more complex Andy Probert design.
Basically: it's not "coherence" you're describing, it's the forced consistency of trying to build a dozen starship classes using off-the-shelf parts from somebody else's designs. Discovery is probably the first Star Trek production in history to not actually have that problem, with all-original starship designs that are not themselves kitbashes or re-arrangements of other ships; even the Kelvinverse starships are ultimately just kitbashes of the Kelvin herself, thus we again have the illusion of "coherence" in what is actually just multiple copies of the same design slightly rearranged.
I couldn't have said it better. I get what he's trying to do, I just don't think it's a very original design. As I've said, alot of Eaves' work is extremely derivative, and that style doesn't always resonate when you're trying to design something totally new.
At least for the Klingon designs, I agree. Some of STO's Starfleet ships look positively godawful... although the Guardian Cruiser and the Odyssey Class are two of my favorite starship designs EVER.
The shorter neck, the darker lighting, this angle that they had the ship canted at coming in....my very first impression was that they were aiming for *somewhat* of a Vengeance-feel to the new version.
Anyone else get that impression at all?
That utilitarian ugly is half its charm
Enterprise?? Voyager?? They both built plenty of new ships/designs and those ships had a consistency.
Yeah, that makes no sense to me.
Not really.
The shorter neck, the darker lighting, this angle that they had the ship canted at coming in....my very first impression was that they were aiming for *somewhat* of a Vengeance-feel to the new version.
Anyone else get that impression at all?
Voyager always stood out to me against TNG era ship as being an odd duck. I loved it for that difference, but it never felt like a TNG Starfleet ship, same with the Defiant.
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