"Trials and Tribble-ations"
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Perhaps. But when 'Trials' first aired, and I was watching it with a group of friends, that line got the best response from the entire episode. In an episode that was filled with Trek continuity & amazing crossovers, geeky jokes and cool references - the line about the difference in Klingons got the biggest reaction from us, and was what we discussed most after the episode. The line wasn't meant to 'explain' the difference, but simply to acknowledge that there was one, in an episode that wasn't really about that. I thought it walked that line in a very funny yet classy manner. My friends agreed that it was brilliant. And all this talk of it is making me long to revisit it.
I took my older sister & her husband to see 'Insurrection' and I fell asleep during the film. I didn't see the complete film until DVD. I was underwhelmed at first, but it's grown on me. I saw 'Nemesis' on opening day. There were 4 other people in the theater, and one of them was my younger sister. 'Nemesis' hasn't grown on me; in fact I find it harder to watch with each new attempt. I don't see many movies in theaters these days, but 'Star Trek' is on my list.
What a good first movie to see in the theater!
(Mine was 'The Little Mermaid.')
It wasn't the first movie I saw in the theater. lol. It was the first Trek that I saw in theaters, and I saw each of the films after that as well.
My first movie was 'Bambi', and I saw it when I was a Freshman in High School, with my 2 sisters. I'm from a very strict Southern Baptist family and they felt very strongly that seeing movies in theaters was a sign of the end times. Our mother disowned us briefly for seeing Bambi. I followed that up by going to see 'The Rocky Horror Picture Show'. My mother got over it in time. I saw 'The Little Mermaid' during it's rerelease. lol
Whoa, I feel a little better now.
My first was 'Generations.' Thrice.
Perhaps. But when 'Trials' first aired, and I was watching it with a group of friends, that line got the best response from the entire episode. In an episode that was filled with Trek continuity & amazing crossovers, geeky jokes and cool references - the line about the difference in Klingons got the biggest reaction from us, and was what we discussed most after the episode. The line wasn't meant to 'explain' the difference, but simply to acknowledge that there was one, in an episode that wasn't really about that. I thought it walked that line in a very funny yet classy manner. My friends agreed that it was brilliant. And all this talk of it is making me long to revisit it.
Fair enough.
I suppose in my case, I do tend to think that if the difference hadn't been mentioned casually in TaT (and I agree with you that it was mainly an acknowledgement of the difference simply existing), or left alone, then ENT might not have made a full origin for it. And that could have been done better, but that's a discussion for another thread. 
Actually no, I didn't know that. To be honest, the Engineering section of the Trek BBS (with the Trek Tech forum) is the only section I have minimized on my Trek BBS main page.
But that looks like some very interesting work you put up there.
Yeah, that's something I noticed, too. I like the metal plating more, myself. It just looked a little more military.
(Incidentally, you have all the shows on DVD except VGR? Geez, you must be rich. I only have TOS and TAS. I'd almost give a finger for TNG.
No, I can assure you that I'm most certainly not rich. I'm just a giant Trek fan. I bought the DS9 and TOS sets when they came out (with the money I earned during my Zivildienst). The Enterprise sets were mostly birthday and christmas presents from my parents. As for TNG, I never bought the single season boxes. I waited for the 20th anniversary release of the whole series, which only costed me circa 120 Euro when I bought them from Amazon. Now if only they'd also release VOY in its entirety for this fair price. 
Actually no, I didn't know that. To be honest, the Engineering section of the Trek BBS (with the Trek Tech forum) is the only section I have minimized on my Trek BBS main page.
But that looks like some very interesting work you put up there.
Why thank you my good sir.
Ditto.
(Incidentally, you have all the shows on DVD except VGR? Geez, you must be rich. I only have TOS and TAS. I'd almost give a finger for TNG.
Ahh. I was mostly teasing. But good to know. Maybe I'll still get the others after all...
I have all the sets on dvd, myself. I'd like to get the blu-ray classic trek ones as well, but I don't really have the cash right now.
darkwing_duck1
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They weren't "subraces" per se, they were Klingon/Human and Klingon/Romulan hybrids (technically known as "Fusions"). The Klingons supposedly created them because the "pure" (or "Imperial") Klingons had a hard time combating either opponent because of differences in temperment, mental acuity, etc.
I have mixed feelings about it.
It was a FUN, light hearted episode and that is what the original Trouble With Tribbles was so that is cool.
But I am definitely not into this Kirk Wroship that permeates so much of Star Trek, Or even captain worship. That business about Whorf being intimidated by Sisko. What was the point of that? So the rather obvious authoritarian thread the runs through Trek annoys me.
Let's face it TOS was a SIXTIES show. It was full of sixties stereotypes. Kirk was the Lone Ranger with a libido and Spock was an Uncle Tom Tom Alien. Look at The Green Hornet and Kato.
So although it was a FUN show the only aspect of the SIXTIES that was cool was the mini-skirts. Or mini-uniforms. Judzea lookea GREAT.
psik
PD - From what I have read and seen in cast interviews, William Shatner is a far more obnoxious person than James T. Kirk.
It was a FUN, light hearted episode and that is what the original Trouble With Tribbles was so that is cool.
But I am definitely not into this Kirk Wroship that permeates so much of Star Trek, Or even captain worship. That business about Whorf being intimidated by Sisko. What was the point of that? So the rather obvious authoritarian thread the runs through Trek annoys me.
Let's face it TOS was a SIXTIES show. It was full of sixties stereotypes. Kirk was the Lone Ranger with a libido and Spock was an Uncle Tom Tom Alien. Look at The Green Hornet and Kato.
So although it was a FUN show the only aspect of the SIXTIES that was cool was the mini-skirts. Or mini-uniforms. Judzea lookea GREAT.
psik
PD - From what I have read and seen in cast interviews, William Shatner is a far more obnoxious person than James T. Kirk.
It's one of the few non-Quark-centric episodes that don't bore me, but that's largely because there's so much TOS in it.
That is a rather cool idea!
^ Yeah, it works really well in terms of explaining the massive shift in Klingon society from a cunning adversary of the UFP to religious fundamentalists under the rule of a Warrior caste.
That is a rather cool idea!
What I meant was the old FASA game is out of print. I really enjoyed the idea waaaay back when I played this game in high school. I was rather surprised when the powers that be did not use this to explain the differences.
The Human Fusions in power during the old series under the rule of a brutal dictatorship and then the Return to the Religous Fundalmentalist Warrior caste of the Imperial race following the over throw of the fusions in Empire.
Would've added a large degree of depth. back then i was under the impression because it was released under their license that Paramount had approved.
Pity I thought it made a more intriiquing empire and adversary for our heroes.
What could've been eh?
Still though TaT was a cute episode that the writers did try hard to pay respect to the original source material. I like the episode
Vons
It was an anniversary tribute to TOS. The gimmick was the substance. It was never meant to be anything more than a fond look back at Kirk and co. I thought the episode was masterfully done.
Plus, it winks at you all the way through. It's not pretending to be anything but a romp.
Just like the shrunken shuttle ep. I can forgive a lot if I'm not being snowed. If the show aspires to be grand art and is just gimmicky, that's just patronizing. But this episode, the Time Travel Police show up, Worf smells like lilac... all that's missing is a scene where the actors jump up and down and say "Cool! I'm on Star Trek from the 60s!!!"
It's a win.
Just like the shrunken shuttle ep. I can forgive a lot if I'm not being snowed. If the show aspires to be grand art and is just gimmicky, that's just patronizing. But this episode, the Time Travel Police show up, Worf smells like lilac... all that's missing is a scene where the actors jump up and down and say "Cool! I'm on Star Trek from the 60s!!!"
It's a win.
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