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Oh I'll still go see it even if it has Khan in it. I just don't think using him is a good idea.

Maybe if they do a bunch of movies and he's in like part 7 or something, but not in the 2nd movie.
 
No surprises here. I expect the next Trek to feature either Klingons or Khan as the villain. If it's Khan then it won't be a TWOK remake but rather a Space Seed remake. No big deal to me.
 
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No surprises here. I expect the next Trek to feature either Klingons or Khan as the villain. If it's Khan then it won't be a TWOK remake but rather a Space Seed remake. No big deal to me.

But would they really go so far as to remake an episode into a film? That's how the first film cam to be, and we know how well that turned out. Surely they're not that stupid to make the same mistake twice.
 
And, for the record, I'm neither male nor fat.

Exception that proves the rule. :techman:

I consider myself a "real" Trekkie - and I still wouldn't watch a movie with Khan.

So you're not a fan of reinterpretations?

I'm not a fan of Khan. Wasn't impressed the first time (and I never found Ricardo Montalban sexy! *shudder*) and I'm certainly not interested in seeing the character again.

If they absolutely have to reinterpret old TOS episodes, I'm all for Balance of Terror. That one I would absolutely watch.
 
And, for the record, I'm neither male nor fat.

Exception that proves the rule. :techman:

I consider myself a "real" Trekkie - and I still wouldn't watch a movie with Khan.

So you're not a fan of reinterpretations?

I'm not a fan of Khan. Wasn't impressed the first time (and I never found Ricardo Montalban sexy! *shudder*) and I'm certainly not interested in seeing the character again.

If they absolutely have to reinterpret old TOS episodes, I'm all for Balance of Terror. That one I would absolutely watch.

Since you didn't point out the fact that you didn't like Khan period, I was left thinking that you were (like most people on this board) anti-Khan due to some over contrived "canon violation" BS. So, sorry if I offended you.

My point in asking you if you were in favor of reinterpretations was to point out to everyone that's against Khan in Trek 2, but FOR J.J.'s reboot that... Um... If you're pissed that your childhood is being messed with by Hollywood because Khan is being remade, you should be VERY VERY pissed off at, you know, THE REBOOT OF THE DAMN FRANCHISE.

Again, not directed at you. But at Fanboys across the world. A group that, by definition, you are not a part of.
 
I'll say this once and once only: If you love Star Trek as you claim, if you have an old homemade uniform in the back of your closet, or if you have every piece of Star Trek merchandise known to man, you would watch anything Star Trek. If you didn't love it, you wouldn't have an account on this website. Would you?

I was referring to this (minus the uniform stuff). I think one can love Star Trek and still not watch every movie religiously.

I also happen to think that one can love Star Trek without feeling the need to bitch it to death (not directed at you, vess).

And I wasn't offended :) It takes much more than this to offend me.
 
I'll say this once and once only: If you love Star Trek as you claim, if you have an old homemade uniform in the back of your closet, or if you have every piece of Star Trek merchandise known to man, you would watch anything Star Trek. If you didn't love it, you wouldn't have an account on this website. Would you?

I was referring to this (minus the uniform stuff). I think one can love Star Trek and still not watch every movie religiously.

I also happen to think that one can love Star Trek without feeling the need to bitch it to death (not directed at you, vess).

And I wasn't offended :) It takes much more than this to offend me.

I agree to an extent. For example, I , for the most part, pretend that Enterprise doesn't even exsist. Not that the events don't take place, but that the series was awful.

I should hope it's not directed at me, because I don't (and wasn't in my original post) bitching it to death. I was saying that I hate when people nit pick the smallest of details. And think the sanctity of Star Trek is being raped my J J Abrams.
 
So. STOP SAYING YOU WOULDN'T WATCH THE MOVIE IF IT HAS KHAN (and yes, it is Khan. Stop spelling it Kahn. Freakin' jackasses) IN IT. My point is that if this real Trekkie is actually clamoring to see Chris Pine versus Javier Bardem (oh yes, it'd have to be him) in Trek II, you should too. After all, it's not Star Trek's fault that you're a bunch of fat white guys that are afraid of change.

Thank you.

Oh, so you're dictating to us that we have to support Chris Pine vs. Javier Bardem.

I'm not afraid of change, for your information. But the "kind of change" is what matters. And some of the smears and stuff are pretty nasty.

It'd be pretty rotten if the sequel was like "Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen," which was panned by critics. That would be pretty bad. Orci and Kurtzman do share in some of the blame here.

If they must do Khan, they have to take this at a different angle. It all depends on how he's used. Simply fusing "Space Seed" and TWOK doesn't seem to work with me. Keep in mind that I'm not against them using Khan as long as they do it with a different angle.
 
I like the idea of Javier Bardem as Khan because he's the only person I can think of who would be even MORE scary than Zachary Quinto as Spock. When I first heard Zachary Quinto was going to be Spock, the image that came to mind was young Spock attempting his very first mind meld, and the top half of the other person's skull falls off...

"OOPS... I did not do it. No one saw me do it. You cannot prove anything..."
 
In this day and age, you gotta cast a real Indian as a real Indian character. Naveen Andrews, baby. Javier Bardem would just cause a huge stink and make it look like Abrams and crew are so utterly clueless they can't tell a Spaniard from an Indian. Not good in the PC cosmos of Hollywood.

Plus, Khan is not supposed to be psycho-scary. He's supposed to be a charismatic leader that you could see people willingly following. Andrews is far closer to the right type.
 
In this day and age, you gotta cast a real Indian as a real Indian character. Naveen Andrews, baby. Javier Bardem would just cause a huge stink and make it look like Abrams and crew are so utterly clueless they can't tell a Spaniard from an Indian. Not good in the PC cosmos of Hollywood.

Plus, Khan is not supposed to be psycho-scary. He's supposed to be a charismatic leader that you could see people willingly following. Andrews is far closer to the right type.

The actor playing Khan does not necessarily have to be from India. It all depends on the skill of the actor. NCIS has a Chilean playing an Israeli...
 
I don't want to see Khan again in a TWOK remake or otherwise. I don't understand what's so special about the character that makes fans want to see him again. He's only appeared in one episode and one film!
 
I don't understand this Khan-hype, either. Let's have a poll about what we want (or absolutely don't want) to see in the next film. Since Mr. Abrams frequents the internet to see how fans are responding, perhaps he'll have mercy on us if he sees that we don't care for Khan.
 
I do not get where the Khan hype is from either.

Why in God's Red Vulcan would JJ have any interest in him? His Trek is already different enough it should be muddied by Khan.
 
If jj abarms decides to do Khan, i think the movie should be an whole different story and an whole new take on the character.
 
In fact, whether Khan is Indian or not isn't a big part of the character's established backstory. The writer almost certainly intended him to be so, but since he left the question unsettled in "Space Seed" people are pretty much free to interpret his history in almost any way they like. The character has an Indian surname, "Singh"; OTOH "Khan" itself can be a Hindu name or a mongolian title; I can't find any reference for "Noonien" at all outside of Trek itself.

McGivers speculated that Khan was a Sikh, but this was never confirmed. And Khan's heritage was completely unreferenced in his second appearence, so the notion that he's Indian is based soley on McGivers' guess.
 
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